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#1 Posted : 20 February 2013 08:21:28(UTC)
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In a stark assessment yesterday, headlined by most of the legacy media, Alistair Buchanan, head of Ofgem, says the UK will come "uncomfortably close" to power shortages from 2015 …".

In a stark assessment published on this blog on 4 Jun 2008, Richard North wrote, "by 2015 – if not before - we could be facing the most serious disruption to our power supplies since the three day week of the 1970s".

But, as this piece records, we first wrote about this issue 10 October 2004 and really got into our stride on 17 December 2006 when we strongly suggested buying a back-up generator.

Read here... http://www.eureferendum....ogview.aspx?blogno=83641

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#2 Posted : 20 February 2013 09:28:54(UTC)
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Connoisseurs of the blackly ironic will delight in the return to power, in 2015, of the people responsible for the energy crisis that cannot now be avoided.
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#3 Posted : 20 February 2013 09:37:11(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: William Gruff Go to Quoted Post
Connoisseurs of the blackly ironic will delight in the return to power, in 2015, of the people responsible for the energy crisis that cannot now be avoided.




Of course, crisis is exactly what they want. Public memories are short, so the author of the Climate Change Act will stand at the dispatch box and announce, without so much as a blush, the "draconian measures" needed to keep the lights on. And the legacy media will applaud his "leadership".

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#4 Posted : 20 February 2013 09:54:07(UTC)
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Prophets, wise ones are never appreciated Richard, especially one who by telling a few home truths highlights the inadequacies of our jejune green lunatics in charge of UK energy policy - and you know this but it must have cause to bring out a wry smile.

There is a bigger play going on here, in Germany the dash for coal is just getting underway, in the UK the green madness means we are closing our coal fired plant.

The green lunatics have almost triumphed, the country has succumbed to the lunatic green ideology and the kids really do actually believe it - it has been drummed in by the left - for all their poorly educated lives.

I said it last night, in the UK, we are run by a set of the most illiberal left wing children but behind them there is a more sinister strategy and strategists.

First the cannon fodder.

You will get a sense of their one dimensional 'philosophy' if you read of the twittersphere, facebook, Huffington post etc. Dear Lord, some of these people are now in power or influence powerful men - Sally Bercow an example. What we are dealing with, a generation of lah-di-dah ingenues [who suffuse the civil service and administration] who are undereducated and over opinionated. Girls and boys, who know nothing of the real world, engineering or science but loads about making their voices and wholly self centred [me, me, me!!] indignation known and felt, some of these inveigled their way into politics, Blair is the most egregious example of power hungry nutters, they have a captive and stupid but adoring audience.

Then we have the other stream and this lot make the useful idiots [above] tick. A new Religion, Christianity was thrown out by the zealots of the new order, it was replaced by a new belief system, call it Marxism, communism, Bolshevism, Trotskeism, Socialism, it is the same - yes they try to differentiate the shades but that is just a misdirection and feint of strategy. There are at this moment, some seriously warped minds promulgating this festering ideology and they are now dressed up as mainstream politicians - Ed Miliband and Jack Straw two good examples of hard left reactionaries posing as men of the people.

In the green agenda, Socialism found a new wet dream Utopia, a means to an end but what a means!! - save the earth [who could argue with that?] and put the people under the yoke - Lenin, Mao, would be thrilled.

This ain't logic, this is politics and we [call us taxpayer, mug or consumer] don't count - we are just production units.

The premature closure and madness of ending of the 'lives' of coal burning power stations defies all logical explanation [but the real reason is not rational is it?], more especially so when the Germans are actively and in their very efficient Tuetonic pragmatism - are building new 'dirty coal' fired plant - NOW!

The laugh is on us and nobody can see it, the blind are leading the blind, we all will be blind when the lights go off, here in Britain.

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What's wrong with some nice clean shale gas fuelled power stations. Surely they could be installed on the old coal burning sites using gas fired boilers and the original generating plant.
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What's wrong with some nice clean shale gas fuelled power stations. Surely they could be installed on the old coal burning sites using gas fired boilers and the original generating plant.


Great but will it be possible? We are told we have huge reserves of it but will it be feasible to get it out given the scares about earthquakes. I would think that the necessary ground installations and construction upheavals will be possible obstacles to a serious shale extraction industry. Given the cheapness of US shale gas and the fact that Centrica is abandoning nuclear here to go for US shale gas, can we hope for cheap imports from there as hinted at by Centrica. If that happens I wonder if extraction here will be too expensive by comparison.
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Originally Posted by: richard Go to Quoted Post
In a stark assessment yesterday, headlined by most of the legacy media, Alistair Buchanan, head of Ofgem, says the UK will come "uncomfortably close" to power shortages from 2015 …".

In a stark assessment published on this blog on 4 Jun 2008, Richard North wrote, "by 2015 – if not before - we could be facing the most serious disruption to our power supplies since the three day week of the 1970s".

But, as this piece records, we first wrote about this issue 10 October 2004 and really got into our stride on 17 December 2006 when we strongly suggested buying a back-up generator.

Read here... http://www.eureferendum....ogview.aspx?blogno=83641


The problem is that there is no party that you can vote for that has a realistic energy policy. They're all away with the fairies. My prediction. We might see a few rolling black outs, but they will largely be avoided as heavy power using industries relocate, this website has already documented this phenomenon. People will die who can't afford the new higher energy prices, but this will be hidden, and there will be no stories on the BBC about it. Imported gas will be burnt in increasing quantities to provide the electricity we need, whilst the BBC will assure us that it is the windmills that are proving our electricity. We'll all be poorer, which the BBC will assure us makes us happier. But I can't see there being riots in the street unless they're stupid enough not to build the new gas fired plants, or do it too slowly. Which is a pity.

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#8 Posted : 20 February 2013 12:07:31(UTC)
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Connoisseurs of the blackly ironic will delight in the return to power, in 2015, of the people responsible for the energy crisis that cannot now be avoided.




Of course, crisis is exactly what they want. Public memories are short, so the author of the Climate Change Act will stand at the dispatch box and announce, without so much as a blush, the "draconian measures" needed to keep the lights on. And the legacy media will applaud his "leadership".



And those draconian measures will include a legal obligation to install smart meters; more windmills; tax-payer funding for millions of electric car charging points, etc., etc., etc. . . .
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#9 Posted : 20 February 2013 12:39:51(UTC)
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..........................and the reason we should not rise up and give them a damn good talking to is.......?Angry
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#10 Posted : 20 February 2013 12:42:38(UTC)
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Connoisseurs of the blackly ironic will delight in the return to power, in 2015, of the people responsible for the energy crisis that cannot now be avoided.




Of course, crisis is exactly what they want. Public memories are short, so the author of the Climate Change Act will stand at the dispatch box and announce, without so much as a blush, the "draconian measures" needed to keep the lights on. And the legacy media will applaud his "leadership".



And those draconian measures will include a legal obligation to install smart meters; more windmills; tax-payer funding for millions of electric car charging points, etc., etc., etc. . . .



... none of which will actually work, but they will progress the Green agenda ... which is what it was about in the first place.

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#11 Posted : 20 February 2013 12:47:43(UTC)
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A BBC report yesterday created the impression that liquefied natural gas (LNG) delivered by ship was a bad thing because competition from China would make it more expensive.

A report in "Die Welt" a few days ago said that LNG is cheap - and therefore a bad thing - at least for those selling heating systems which use renewables (and who are, of course, only concerned that German govt. targets for the use of renewables should be met).

The headline of the report in Die Welt a few days ago was:
"Cheap gas thwarts German energy turnaround" - admittedly this is more about energy for heating rather than electricity generation.

The article's subheadings include:

"Shale gas revolution in the U.S. has an effect"
"No more fears of supply shortages of gas"

The article says that fracking has made the US almost self-sufficient in gas, thereby freeing up supplies of LNG for the rest of the world and so reducing the price - and reducing the scope for being blackmailed by the Russian gas industry. As a result, most people are opting for condensing gas boilers (admittedly combined with some solar hot water systems) when changing their heating systems. Wood pelllet-fired boilers aren't doing too badly, but still only have a market share of 4.5 percent. Market share of heat pumps stagnating at 9.2 percent.

The German domestic/energy/environmental technology association BDH (a lobby group I suppose) is calling for incentives and tax breaks to boost take-up of heating systems using renewable energy sources. The German govt. has an ambitious target for switching people over to heating with renewables (1 million heating systems would have to be replaced annually to meet this) and BDH members want to make the most of this.

The link to the Google translation seems to stop working after a while, so here's the original article in German.
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#12 Posted : 20 February 2013 12:54:57(UTC)
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Connoisseurs of the blackly ironic will delight in the return to power, in 2015, of the people responsible for the energy crisis that cannot now be avoided.




Of course, crisis is exactly what they want. Public memories are short, so the author of the Climate Change Act will stand at the dispatch box and announce, without so much as a blush, the "draconian measures" needed to keep the lights on. And the legacy media will applaud his "leadership".



And those draconian measures will include a legal obligation to install smart meters; more windmills; tax-payer funding for millions of electric car charging points, etc., etc., etc. . . .



... none of which will actually work, but they will progress the Green agenda ... which is what it was about in the first place.


correct, correct and correct . . .
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#13 Posted : 20 February 2013 12:57:12(UTC)
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And no mention anywhere of Osborne's carbon tax which comes in on 1st April. Will the brown stuff hit the fan then? I doubt it.Angry
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And no mention anywhere of Osborne's carbon tax which comes in on 1st April. Will the brown stuff hit the fan then? I doubt it.Angry


The brown stuff can hit the fan but there won't be any power to the fan to fling it around.
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The great unwashed will probably see occasional black-outs as an embuggeration but live through them with a shrug of the shoulders ... until it starts affecting them watching X-Fuctor, Strictly Come Dancing On Ice, CorrieEnders etc., then they might start getting a bit restless.

What's the betting that the timing of power outages will be somehow managed to avoid depriving the masses of their idiot's lantern fix and hence stop them revolting?
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#16 Posted : 20 February 2013 13:51:45(UTC)
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The organisation is now in its terminal stage.

It is being choked by the ever-proliferating Clueless in its middle stratum, while the Sociopaths at the top loot the carcass.

At the bottom, the Losers remain largely oblivious and completely powerless.

Powerless.
Please hold: your call is important to us.
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#17 Posted : 20 February 2013 16:59:10(UTC)
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.....People will die who can't afford the new higher energy prices, but this will be hidden, and there will be no stories on the BBC about it...



"..People will die who can't afford the new higher energy prices, but this will be held up as an example of why we need more insulation by the BBC, and more taxes will be levied to fund more 'green' jobs in providing it at exorbitant prices..."


There. Just a minor amount of fixing needed...
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#18 Posted : 20 February 2013 18:16:57(UTC)
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Power cuts will really push the situation home to the general public, and if Labour are back in power, as seems likely, they will get the blame and the public will want it sorted out quickly.

So I am quite looking forward to watching them struggling to cope with that. It will wipe the smirks off their horrible little faces.
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Originally Posted by: Bertie Dugger Go to Quoted Post
The great unwashed will probably see occasional black-outs as an embuggeration but live through them with a shrug of the shoulders ... until it starts affecting them watching X-Fuctor, Strictly Come Dancing On Ice, CorrieEnders etc., then they might start getting a bit restless.

What's the betting that the timing of power outages will be somehow managed to avoid depriving the masses of their idiot's lantern fix and hence stop them revolting?


Completely agree. I have tried to get people interested in what is going on around them and they really are more concerned with X-Factor etc. I really do want power outages to happen. I truly do. It is the only way people MAY, and I do mean MAY start asking why. It is just the same as the elections; many will go on voting for the same party (if they can be bothered at all) time and time again. They are not interested in slaughtering politicians for wasting THEIR money. A huge wave of apathy has broken out over the last god knows how many years. The whole country is apathetic and will shrug their shoulders and go "oh well". And believe what MSM say.

What is the main news at the moment? The shooting by a disabled runner of his girlfriend in South Africa! Why is it top news? Because that is what the masses want. I am writing this around 1800 so the local news is on. What is the main news? A theatre is shutting down. Very sad I am sure but is that the most exciting thing that happened in the last 24 hours?

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