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#1 Posted : 18 February 2013 14:06:40(UTC)
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Adding to the growing evidence that public figures and the media have little idea of how we are now governed, we retail below several recent examples.

The first in line would have been seen by watchers of the Murnaghan programme on Sky yesterday, when they were treated to a dissertation from the tight-lipped Anne McIntosh, MP. She heads up the EFRA Select Committee and has been voluble in the Commons (pictured above) about imposing an import ban on processed foods, to prevent products adulterated with horsemeat reaching British consumers.

As she had done in the Commons, she cited an old case from 1979, known as the "Cassis de Dijon", in justification of an import ban. She argued that this French low alcohol product, which had been refused an import license by the German authorities, provided a precedent for a temporary ban while the issues were sorted out.

Read here... http://www.eureferendum....ogview.aspx?blogno=83637

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john in cheshire on 18/02/2013(UTC)
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#2 Posted : 18 February 2013 15:35:56(UTC)
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You must keep up the good work on this. If ever there was an issue which demonstrates how we are governed (and the breathtaking ignorance of much of the political class and media about how we are governed) this is it.
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#3 Posted : 18 February 2013 15:44:38(UTC)
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I caught the end of the interview with Ms McIntosh where she rather smugly stated that she had practiced EU Law as if that was the final say in the discussion. Parliament seems to be full of this sort - lawyers and barristers who clearly are not good enough to make a decent living at law and subsequently use their qualifications as some sort of entry ticket into the Public Trough. They rank even lower than accountants in my view.
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#4 Posted : 18 February 2013 16:12:03(UTC)
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You would think that the europhile BBC, which so often gives a platform to anyone prepared to extol the virtues of the Single Market would realise..........



And that's the odd thing, the BBC is typical of the europhiles in that it does not understand the subject but assumes that what it thinks is right and desirable then the EU must do to. In human terms this is almost a treatable condition, it's akin to a psychological flaw.

This very weird dersire to cling on to the less than truthful, from a 'news' based organisation, goes beyond the bizarre to the dangerous. Leaving aside the food fraud and thinking of the NHS post Mid Staffs disaster, the BBC is in total denial that perhaps 1000+ have died.

All you ever hear is how wonderful the NHS is. Well it is sometimes but clearly not at Mid Staffs. The BBC does not do 'balance' as it cannot grasp the national mood, around here thay are seething about the NHS.
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Thus, yesterday, I found myself on the Telegraph website dealing with someone who refused to believe that food inspection standards were so tightly controlled by the EU that we were limited both as to the minimum standard and the maximum and, especially, as to frequency.


There seemed to be two sorts of people with hostile comments, those basically attacking Paterson for being a Tory, and those who just couldn't accept that food safety was an EU competence, meaning that the UK government has very little control over it.

It seems as if opinion in the HoC is much the same.
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Originally Posted by: Damian Hockney Go to Quoted Post

You must keep up the good work on this. If ever there was an issue which demonstrates how we are governed (and the breathtaking ignorance of much of the political class and media about how we are governed) this is it.




BigGrin Hi Damian, and welcome to the forum.


I agree - food safety has leap-frogged some of the other policy areas to become one of the most fully-developed EU competences, with legislation covering not on the operators, but the national enforcement authorities. In addition, it has its own "food police" to monitor and enforce the legislation, acting in the manner of a federal enforcement authority.

As Paterson has been pointing out, therefore, there is very little that a British minister can initiate without first getting permission from the European Commission. It thus makes the perfect example of European integration, and sign-posts the way for other policy areas.

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#7 Posted : 18 February 2013 23:02:15(UTC)
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Apologies if this is the wrong section to post this question but there is an indirect link as it relates to food and drink.

Given that NHS executives generally appear either to get promoted or generously paid off when they preside over the deaths of hundreds or thousands of patients, I wondered what the true angle is on the "fizzy drink" tax since it obviously isn't concern for the welfare of ordinary people.

I came across this http://www.epha.org/a/4814 which suggests to me an indirect EU link rather like the homosexual marriage position via the Council of Europe recommendation.

Am I right or talking rubbish?!

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#8 Posted : 19 February 2013 00:10:28(UTC)
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The pinheads who blame the government for this mess have a point, but sadly they are too stupid to realise that the government they are criticising is in Brussels. They really can't get their tiny little minds around this fact.
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#9 Posted : 19 February 2013 17:41:41(UTC)
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I recently wrote an article on the European Gendarmerie Force (EUROGENDFOR) and sent a copy to my MP. He replied and thanked me for 'bringing this to his attention'! I couldn't believe that he didn't know about this very important subject. Just shows.
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