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#1 Posted : 16 February 2013 12:03:24(UTC)
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"You will have heard a lot about horse meat recently" writes Charles Moore in todays Daily Telegraph, something of an understatement, you might think. "Yet", he goes on to say, "you almost certainly will not have heard of Regulation (EC) No 178/2002".

That, of course, is true of the majority of people who rely on the legacy media for their information, but readers of this blog were told about it last Sunday, with a reminder through the week.

The regulation, writes Moore to his less-informed readers, "discloses the key fact about this scandal. Supported by Tony Blairs government, Regulation 178 transferred responsibility for food safety from each member state to the EU. It set up the European Food Safety Agency. So the British Government is no longer responsible for the safety of the food that Britons eat".

Read here... http://www.eureferendum....ogview.aspx?blogno=83633

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#2 Posted : 16 February 2013 14:06:57(UTC)
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It is claimed that Mr Cameron is a Eurosceptic, yet it is said in this article that he doesn't want to admit that food safety is an exclusive competence of the EU because it might turn more people Eurosceptic. Mr Cameron says he wants to bring powers back from the EU. Will we see food safety being added to the list of powers he wants repatriated? Or is his Eurosceptism and calls for repatriation a load of horse meat sold as beef?

It is not just Number 10 who do not want to tell the British people the truth. it is the media. It proves that number 10 and the media are in fact not Eurosceptic at all, but support membership of the EU. The Telegraph itself tells us at every opportunity what a wonderful Eurosceptic Mr Cameron is. When UKIP score a few points, the Telegraph goes into attack dog mode to denounce UKIP. So the Telegraph is a Europhile organisation in Eurosceptic's clothing, just like Cameron and the Conservative party.


That at least is one comment I posted on the DT website. It gives us so much fun ripping the DT apart.
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#3 Posted : 16 February 2013 14:39:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: stuart Go to Quoted Post
It is claimed that Mr Cameron is a Eurosceptic, yet it is said in this article that he doesn't want to admit that food safety is an exclusive competence of the EU because it might turn more people Eurosceptic. Mr Cameron says he wants to bring powers back from the EU. Will we see food safety being added to the list of powers he wants repatriated? Or is his Eurosceptism and calls for repatriation a load of horse meat sold as beef?

It is not just Number 10 who do not want to tell the British people the truth. it is the media. It proves that number 10 and the media are in fact not Eurosceptic at all, but support membership of the EU. The Telegraph itself tells us at every opportunity what a wonderful Eurosceptic Mr Cameron is. When UKIP score a few points, the Telegraph goes into attack dog mode to denounce UKIP. So the Telegraph is a Europhile organisation in Eurosceptic's clothing, just like Cameron and the Conservative party.


That at least is one comment I posted on the DT website. It gives us so much fun ripping the DT apart.


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#4 Posted : 16 February 2013 16:20:12(UTC)
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re comments on DT website. I posted there 3 hours ago that C. Moore must have been following this blog (how else would he know about the EU responsibility for food safety?!).Commenting also on another reader's reply there, I endorsed UKIP MEP Stuart Agnew's recent raising of the EU's grab for the seabed around Britain which, if factual, might be a runner for us.
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#5 Posted : 16 February 2013 16:26:46(UTC)
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Further comment, I agree with this from Richard "Strangely, UKIP – which one might have thought would be shouting from the rooftops that food control is an exclusive EU competence, but all we seem to have is one press release on the subject, that does not even seem to be on the UKIP website." I have emailed the High Command accordingly.
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#6 Posted : 16 February 2013 17:37:02(UTC)
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re comments on DT website. I posted there 3 hours ago that C. Moore must have been following this blog (how else would he know about the EU responsibility for food safety?!).Commenting also on another reader's reply there, I endorsed UKIP MEP Stuart Agnew's recent raising of the EU's grab for the seabed around Britain which, if factual, might be a runner for us.




Agnew, I think, is talking about a speculative European Parliament amendment to the Commission proposals ... there is nothing in the actual Commission proposals, and the chances of this becoming a reality are nil. Apart from anything else, there is no treaty provision that would support it.

As for Moore, he took his briefing from Paterson, his spad and press officer ... and they got their information from ...
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#7 Posted : 16 February 2013 17:37:52(UTC)
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Further comment, I agree with this from Richard "Strangely, UKIP – which one might have thought would be shouting from the rooftops that food control is an exclusive EU competence, but all we seem to have is one press release on the subject, that does not even seem to be on the UKIP website." I have emailed the High Command accordingly.




They've missed the moment, I fear. This scare will be history by Monday.
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#8 Posted : 16 February 2013 18:21:07(UTC)
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Out of interest Richard, what do you see as the source of reluctance, both by MP's and the legacy media, when it comes to discussing 'matters EU'? Laziness? Verboten subject (under some gentleman's agreement)? Ignorance of 'matters EU' (laziness?)? General support, by decision makers (MP's, Editors ...) for the EU project?

Just that it seems to me that the EU is 'that which can't be named'. I wonder why it isn't named.
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Further comment, I agree with this from Richard "Strangely, UKIP – which one might have thought would be shouting from the rooftops that food control is an exclusive EU competence, but all we seem to have is one press release on the subject, that does not even seem to be on the UKIP website." I have emailed the High Command accordingly.




They've missed the moment, I fear. This scare will be history by Monday.



I think the horsemeat story has longer legs than that.

Yes, I understood that the seabed grab is far from being a Commission thing yet but 'every little helps' as Tesco says.
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Further comment, I agree with this from Richard "Strangely, UKIP – which one might have thought would be shouting from the rooftops that food control is an exclusive EU competence, but all we seem to have is one press release on the subject, that does not even seem to be on the UKIP website." I have emailed the High Command accordingly.




They've missed the moment, I fear. This scare will be history by Monday.



I think the horsemeat story has longer legs than that.

Yes, I understood that the seabed grab is far from being a Commission thing yet but 'every little helps' as Tesco says.



It's crying wolf. Tactically, I don't think it helps to talk up low-order threats, especially when they are so improbably. It reduces crediblity.
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Just that it seems to me that the EU is 'that which can't be named'. I wonder why it isn't named.


Let me answer by way of posing a question.

Were you a mainstream British politician (don't forget the cultural baggage you'd inevitably be forced to accept and the course travelled to get there), what would you do?

Given that playing the system and collecting various benefits would well suit you and yours well, especially with ministerial status, it would be hard to say it was all rubbish and going to end in disaster.

I think it's largely a case of staying close to nurse for fear of something worse, and that our elected representatives are cultivated to come across well. We've reached the stage where they are in it for their own reasons and they choose not to disclose them. If they were honest, no one would vote for them.
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#12 Posted : 19 February 2013 08:11:37(UTC)
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Just an update.Charles Moore has took exception to Will Hutton from the Guardian piece you also linked in another post.

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One of the worst articles I have ever seen. How WH can claim that the horsemeat issue 'reveals' endemic failings in the market mechanism or conservative thinking but ignore what the NHS's successive scandals and mass deaths 'reveal' about socialism/collectivism defies any rational analysis.

Come on, Guardian newspaper and Guardian readers, catch up:

No sort of state-imposed ‘organisation’, be it at the national, EU or (God forbid) global level, will ever work 100 percent. How could it, even in theory?

On the contrary, this Stalinist attitude to regulation is dying on its feet. It won’t be long before ‘capitalism’ invents cheap sophisticated food-testing devices so that every shop and home can see for itself what is in these myriad products without any state intervention or regulation whatsoever. A mass global crowd-sourced approach to food quality is more likely to catch sneaky ad hoc abuse than a tiny army of centralised food safety apparatchiki.

http://charlescrawford.b...-about-his-state-of-mind


http://www.guardian.co.u...native&commentpage=1

The mad baiting the bad.RollEyes

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