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Offhand, I cannot recall a torrent of EU publicity of such intensity, running for so long, directed at the withdrawal issue. No one can say that this is no longer an agenda item, bringing the scaremongers out in full force. Latest in the long list of recruits to these ranks is Danny Alexander, the Lib-Dem Treasury Secretary and full time europhile. But, in the considered opinion of this man, no responsible leader could "contemplate" leaving the European Union, an interesting development. You will note that the offence here is to "contemplate" – now we're not even supposed to think about leaving. It is also interesting to see how the 'philes are quick to invoke "national interest", with Alexander asserting that this – i.e., europhilia – should "trump party political difficulties". View full article here
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It makes you wonder if there is someone in an office somewhere calling these guys and telling them what to say. They all seem to know their jobs.
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Quote:.N. said:
which means that the debate is solidifying without reaching a conclusion. Some are thus arguing that we need to hammer out a change in the terms of the debate, and the vocabulary. Instead of talking about leaving, for instance, the view is emerging that we should instead be talking about "decoupling" trade from political integration. And for this, it just happens that Article 50 is the most appropriate mechanism. If they catch the drift, all well and good - AND - Rome won't be knocked down in a day - to rework an old adage. Quote:Doc. N. also said:
Unless someone can come up with such means, to break the logjam, Cameron's "Europe" speech is heading for disaster. The race is on for a magic bullet. I can maybe scarce contain my anticipation and what does intrigue - is how Dave is going to 'frame' this speech, he is on the plank and he surely must be able to see the watching sharks and thinking - flesh sawing, ripping teeth.
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This deluge of threats from the Europhiles is obviously coordinated with or without the connivance of the media. The fear is that if they have to give us some concessions then the whole thing will starts to unravel.
On the World Tonight on Radio 4 last night Farrage actually mentioned Article 50. What is it about old dogs and new tricks?
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No "responsible" political leader would provide 5 billion euro's in support of Egypt's process of democratization and play the money into the hands of the Morsi Regime that just performed an extreme Islamic coup. The quicker we can leave the EU, the better.
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