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On top of everything else these week (watch for the Sunday Telegraph tomorrow, we've been working on a piece for the Daily Mail, which has gone into the paper today under Booker's name. There was a time when it would have had both our names on, but not any more. The article is loosely based on this, which a wrote back in October 2011, pointing up a major structural change in the way local government is funded, with a gradual shift from Council Tax to fees and changes, so much so that this source of income now exceeds the headline income from Council Tax. Overall, we then see that, despite the rhetoric on "cuts", in the past six years, despite the recession, local government spending in England alone has risen by more than 25 percent to an all-time record of more than £170 billion. The freeze on Council Tax rates is so much window dressing. View full article here
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Nice piece that have tweeted it. Quote:There was a time when it would have had both our names on, but not any more. Is there a reason why...?
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Originally Posted by: TheBoilingFrog  Nice piece that have tweeted it. Quote:There was a time when it would have had both our names on, but not any more. Is there a reason why...? Off the radar ... 'appens.
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There needs to be a fundamental dedrafting of the Superannuation regulations both to prevent abuse and face up to the fact that these pensions are not only unaffordable but will not be paid by future taxpayers who themselves have no private pension provision.The situation,of course,is worse in central government where there is not even a fund supporting the pensions so they are paid out of current taxation.
The amendments to the superannuation regulations should start by ending "Added Years" whereby a sum of money is transferred from the revenue budget to the pension fund to make up for paying a pension whose rate has been adjusted as if the recipient had worked for up to ten years more than they had in fact been employed.The second is to stop retirement before 65.No more early retirements at 50.
On a more general topic the Boston Consulting Group have recently published a study suggesting that there is a "gearing" relationship between the size of the state sector and growth.
By the way why can't I log in from other computers while out of the country?
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Originally Posted by: James102 
By the way why can't I log in from other computers while out of the country?
Dunno. Why can't you log in from other computers while out of the country? Is it because your details are saved on the home computer and not on the away machines, and have to be re-entered manually?
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I spend my life now in a permanent state of dismay.
When I decided I needed a better income I retrained into a new occupation in my own time and at my own expense.
My new job is better paid but doesn't come with a pension. So I spend my evenings now researching investment funds to try and invest my money in the best way.
But I still have to pay ever increasing Council Tax, 25 per cent of which, according to some estimates, goes on paying guaranteed public sector pensions.
I will assist anybody who has a serious, workable plan to do anything about this.
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Thanks for this information, as do I also express appreciation for your blogs on other topics - all of them interesting, useful and obtainable often from no other source!
Your range of the topics covered on this website, suggests to me that the title "EUReferendum" is a mite narrow, since your subjects extend beyond just the bloody EU and the referendum debate. Would it be appropriate to consider a change to something embracing a wider range? I would suggest something like "UKSovereignty" with a strapline saying "Let the UK be a nation to itself", or some such.
Or probably, I'm just being silly!
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Originally Posted by: richard 
Dunno. Why can't you log in from other computers while out of the country? Is it because your details are saved on the home computer and not on the away machines, and have to be re-entered manually?
Tried that and asked for password reminder,although I had inputted the right one, but none was sent.
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Originally Posted by: techno  I spend my life now in a permanent state of dismay.
When I decided I needed a better income I retrained into a new occupation in my own time and at my own expense.
My new job is better paid but doesn't come with a pension. So I spend my evenings now researching investment funds to try and invest my money in the best way.
But I still have to pay ever increasing Council Tax, 25 per cent of which, according to some estimates, goes on paying guaranteed public sector pensions.
I will assist anybody who has a serious, workable plan to do anything about this. What you describe is why I think the present public sector pensions will simply not be paid within a decade or so.This is like a variant of the belief that immigration from the Third world can compensate for Europe's demographic problems. Back in the real world young poor African/Arabs etc will not pay high taxes to keep old German/French etc pensioners,neither will private sector taxpayers pay high taxes to pay the pensions of former public sector workers when those same private sector taxpayers have no private pensions to look forward to.
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Originally Posted by: richard  Originally Posted by: TheBoilingFrog  Nice piece that have tweeted it. Quote:There was a time when it would have had both our names on, but not any more. Is there a reason why...? Off the radar ... 'appens. Do you mean you are off the radar but not of your own volition? If so, I for one would like you to be very much on the radar - On Question Time, on the Politics show, etc.etc. How can we be of assistance other than pointing as many as possible in the direction of this blog?
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Originally Posted by: James102  What you describe is why I think the present public sector pensions will simply not be paid within a decade or so.This is like a variant of the belief that immigration from the Third world can compensate for Europe's demographic problems.
Public sector pensions look like a huge game of pass the time bomb successive governments play. It's going to go off, but they hope it won't be on their watch. Eventually the recipients are going to be told it can't happen. I think there are muted attempts to manage expectations down. The economic arguments for mass immigration and the idea that we'd need these people to look after us when we are old, were known to be spurious by the people trotting them out. This was ideologically based.
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Originally Posted by: James102  Originally Posted by: richard 
Dunno. Why can't you log in from other computers while out of the country? Is it because your details are saved on the home computer and not on the away machines, and have to be re-entered manually?
Tried that and asked for password reminder,although I had inputted the right one, but none was sent. Sorry about that ... the evil forum fairy is at work.
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Originally Posted by: richard 
Sorry about that ... the evil forum fairy is at work.
No problem,I'm on my travels again next month and will try again then.
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Originally Posted by: James102  Originally Posted by: richard 
Sorry about that ... the evil forum fairy is at work.
No problem,I'm on my travels again next month and will try again then. e-mail me if you have a problem.
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Originally Posted by: comet  Originally Posted by: James102  What you describe is why I think the present public sector pensions will simply not be paid within a decade or so.This is like a variant of the belief that immigration from the Third world can compensate for Europe's demographic problems.
Public sector pensions look like a huge game of pass the time bomb successive governments play. It's going to go off, but they hope it won't be on their watch. Eventually the recipients are going to be told it can't happen. I think there are muted attempts to manage expectations down. The economic arguments for mass immigration and the idea that we'd need these people to look after us when we are old, were known to be spurious by the people trotting them out. This was ideologically based. Yes I agree.The pensions simply can't be paid but no one,least of all a member of our useless political class, will admit it. The immigration argument is a measure of desperation from people who thought societies were infinitely malleable. There is a demographic problem particularly in Europe,although recent projection about China (of all places) are a bit scary. In simple terms the median age in Europe is now older than the median age of the oldest US State,Florida.Italy already,I believe, has more citizens over 60 than under 16 and Germany's population is falling. Project Germany's population forward a generation and you are contemplating a society with a third or so over 60 and generous state welfare benefits paid from taxation:a fantasy.
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The article in the DM is quite appropriate and at an excellent time. On Thursday, I am going to a UKIP meeting about how to focus the campaign to get a UKIP candidate elected in May. As the current council is always a bun fight between the Tories and the LDs, we can use this to find evidence that there really is no difference whichever one of them has control; they will still want money money money.
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Originally Posted by: richard 
e-mail me if you have a problem.
Thanks
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Originally Posted by: thespecialone  The article in the DM is quite appropriate and at an excellent time. On Thursday, I am going to a UKIP meeting about how to focus the campaign to get a UKIP candidate elected in May. As the current council is always a bun fight between the Tories and the LDs, we can use this to find evidence that there really is no difference whichever one of them has control; they will still want money money money. Remember these "retirements" have to be agreed by elected Councillors or in the NHS members of the respective boards.They give the impression they are a "Right" which they can't refuse but that is not true.Unless the employee reaches 60 they can't just retire.As for "Added Years" this is also discretionary and very expensive for the taxpayer.If you get a chance just ask what the council policy is on these issues and the costs incurred over the last ten years.
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@James102.
Perhaps you fail to log out before leaving home. Make sure your router is turned off too. Dunno but maybe that will help.
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Originally Posted by: richard  Originally Posted by: TheBoilingFrog  Nice piece that have tweeted it. Quote:There was a time when it would have had both our names on, but not any more. Is there a reason why...? Off the radar ... 'appens. But I'm assuming you still had input into the article?
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