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richard
#1 Posted : 03 February 2013 22:44:35(UTC)
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The rationale for Europe is not peace … it is about power, says Tony Blair, who equates power with size of population.

You would think, after all this time, this man would know something about the nature of power and its distribution. But, unless he is being deliberately disingenuous (which is quite possible), he clearly has learned very little from his experience as prime minister.

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#2 Posted : 04 February 2013 00:09:25(UTC)
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We all know that Blair is a total imbecile, the joke is - the famous war criminal and that the British electorate returned Blair to power three times, YEP :-) THREE TIMES!!


Blair, is angling for something, wheeling and wheedling to ingratiate himself to TPTB in Brussels.

I deem, that Tony fancies another pop at Dick Von Rumpy's post.

Alternatively, our la' Ton'........ being in the know and on the QT - maybe, when the EU is all finished conquering Britain [round about next week sometime] they [the Oligarchy de Bruxelles] will impose/install him as: Imperial governor to the province of North West Maritimo - formerly known as Britain.
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#3 Posted : 04 February 2013 08:54:38(UTC)
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Yup I'm sure Blair does equate the EU with power for he and his ilk would be the last people to realise that power needs to reside with us the 'people' as the Harrogate Agenda sets out in its first demand.
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#4 Posted : 04 February 2013 10:06:14(UTC)
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Yup I'm sure Blair does equate the EU with power for he and his ilk would be the last people to realise that power needs to reside with us the 'people' as the Harrogate Agenda sets out in its first demand.



It occurred to me that he is indeed thinking in EU terms. The EU is more powerful with Britain as a member, and that is what he is concerned to secure. What he doesn't say is that the UK is less powerful.
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#5 Posted : 04 February 2013 12:03:49(UTC)
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Power to do what and controlled by whom? Him presumably. In view of his efforts while PM, that's truly a scary thought.

I can see the EU having power over its citizens, but in world terms, economic and military, I can't see it amounting to anything more than a big, bloated, lumbering bloc, facing inevitable decline.
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#6 Posted : 04 February 2013 12:14:35(UTC)
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He clearly has learned very little from his experience as prime minister.


Well he's clearly learned how to milk his former status to become a very rich man...
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#7 Posted : 04 February 2013 12:41:00(UTC)
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He clearly has learned very little from his experience as prime minister.


Well he's clearly learned how to milk his former status to become a very rich man...



That, unfortunately, it the way politics works now - a portal to untold riches.
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#8 Posted : 04 February 2013 13:36:14(UTC)
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It's all about power. Until it's about peace. And then about collectivism. Economies of scale. Competitiveness. Democracy. Accountability. Rights and freedoms. Etc, etc. There is nothing about which the EU can be claimed to make better or stronger. In practice is just isn't true but that doesn't stop these kinds of people saying it.

The most malign issue is identity. They have captured the idea of being european to further their own political goals.


Richard,

Your coverage of Norway's relationship with the EU, and of Iceland's position on mackerel fishing, shows that size can be beaten by lawful authority.
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#9 Posted : 04 February 2013 14:54:27(UTC)
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The rationale for Europe is not peace … it is about power,


Blair's very far from being alone in this. A month or two back, Barroso was saying much the same thing. For them it's all about being able to "sit at the top table with the big boys." And eat expensive pheasant and truffle luncheons washed down with very expensive champagne, because that's what the big boys at the top table eat. I sometimes really think that this is what it's really all about: food. Meanwhile everything else goes to hell or gets regulated to death because these people all have their heads in the clouds, wondering what's for the G8 evening dinner.
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#10 Posted : 04 February 2013 20:00:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Frank Davis Go to Quoted Post
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The rationale for Europe is not peace … it is about power,


Blair's very far from being alone in this. A month or two back, Barroso was saying much the same thing. For them it's all about being able to "sit at the top table with the big boys." And eat expensive pheasant and truffle luncheons washed down with very expensive champagne, because that's what the big boys at the top table eat. I sometimes really think that this is what it's really all about: food. Meanwhile everything else goes to hell or gets regulated to death because these people all have their heads in the clouds, wondering what's for the G8 evening dinner.


Very good point so the corruption of our elite political class is all about Food Glorious Food!!!
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