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richard
#1 Posted : 17 January 2013 15:50:30(UTC)
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Time to bring out Dr David Viner: "Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past". Within a few years winter snowfall, would become "a very rare and exciting event".

View full article here
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#2 Posted : 17 January 2013 16:40:17(UTC)
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Was looking at the BBC weather today to check for some more global warming falling over me this weekend and my eye caught on this.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/20998895


All this cold is caused by ...you guessed it...warming in the stratosphere.

You'd think we never got cold snowy weather in winter,...............it bleedin well happens every year.

Though I did like this quote.

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Not every SSW[sudden stratospheric warmings] event leads to a bitter spell for us in the UK, and not every cold spell is caused by SSW - the atmosphere is far more complicated than that.

So the cold and snowy weather is with us. But how long will its magic and mayhem last? The honest answer is that we do not know.

SSW events not only throw the atmosphere into disarray, they also present huge challenges for computer models in predicting what happens next.


Normally we can be quite confident in our predictions for up to a week ahead. But not at the moment






They can tell us what the climate will be in 100 years time though.Cool
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#3 Posted : 17 January 2013 18:50:40(UTC)
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Must admit I did think about Viner myself today as we are due a dumping of global warming tomorrow. You beat me to it!
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#4 Posted : 17 January 2013 22:16:46(UTC)
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I see fresh snow in the hills that dropped yesterday. it is summer here in NZ

By the way, here is an interesting lecture by Nir Shaviv who makes a fairly compelling case that cosmic rays have a fairly large influence on climate and CO2 is a minor player

http://www.sciencebits.com/Munich-2012

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#5 Posted : 18 January 2013 08:01:08(UTC)
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It's on mornings such as these, when I become a little bit nostalgic for man made global warming [where did it go to??]................please, please come back - man!
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#6 Posted : 18 January 2013 08:44:27(UTC)
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It's on mornings such as these, when I become a little bit nostalgic for man made global warming [where did it go to??]................please, please come back - man!





Considering how much we're paying for all this global warming, it's about time we got our money's worth.
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#7 Posted : 18 January 2013 15:18:49(UTC)
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It's on mornings such as these, when I become a little bit nostalgic for man made global warming [where did it go to??]................please, please come back - man!





Considering how much we're paying for all this global warming, it's about time we got our money's worth.



Even if every hour of every day were a balmy 25 degrees, with a faint cooling breeze and wispy clouds high up in an otherwise clear blue sky, we still wouldn't be getting anywhere near our money's worth . . .
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#8 Posted : 18 January 2013 17:16:45(UTC)
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Even if every hour of every day were a balmy 25 degrees, with a faint cooling breeze and wispy clouds high up in an otherwise clear blue sky, we still wouldn't be getting anywhere near our money's worth . . .




Cool BigGrin
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#9 Posted : 18 January 2013 17:41:14(UTC)
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Actually Vincent that BEEB article is correct.
I predicted the current cold on New Years Day based on an SSW on the 31st Dec.
There was another SSW on the 15th of this month and we may not be as lucky this time. I think the cooling from the Dec. SSW largely missed us.

EDIT: The delay between SSW & cold is around 10 days.

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#10 Posted : 19 January 2013 08:24:22(UTC)
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BBC1 had a programme on prime time last night that was just about snow.

My colleagues were laughing at the BBC's hysterical coverage on Thursday, and so were people in the pub yesterday evening.
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