Richard,

Thank you for that succinct summary. Executive!

Right, that's getting pasted as a permanent note in my iDumbPhone ready for quick-draw europhile bashing.

And can we have more of these handy summaries like that as things hot up please? Especially on Article 50.

And maybe a handy list of all those international bodies that make the global running.

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Bugger!

I think the Tories actually believe this renegotiation rubbish. It's a cozy thing to believe, although apart from anything else, how anyone quite imagines the negotiation could succeed with withdrawal expressly excluded is a mystery.

The key has to be demolishing the half-way position as it then becomes a choice between in and joining the Euro, Schengen and all the rest, and out, which would hardly need arguing for given the alternative.

I should have said - thanks for this [above blog] post - it sets it out in stark terms Britain's infinitely negligible to none existent position vis-a-vis the EU and the acquis [very important] - even Dave could understand it.





That's what Cameron will not admit - even to himself.



Indeed.


It may be that, already it is too late, further f8rting around by Eton Tory boy makes and allows for the nation to be driven further into the EU midden [and Miliband's mission].............or is he stalling purposefully and all the time - he was batting for the Brussels cowshot strollers anyway - you have to wonder.

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Agreed with AM. That is one demolition of Cameron I am going to keep. Can't wait for the demolition of his Friday speech. Thank you very much.

I would think that he is almost certainly perfectly well-informed. He has simply chosen to try to do something that can't be done, in full knowledge that it will fail, so that he can at least pretend to have tried to do something. And most likely all the other senior politicians are just as well-informed as he is, but go along with the charade, because they want it to fail too.

It's the Canute strategy.

Everything is up for grabs! This one [EU referendum conundrum] has much more to play.

Cameron's speech, is maybe the beginning of the end of the start of the 40 year march to freedom.

First thing Cameron must do after this speech, now his proffered boundary changes are scuppered - he must forthwith end or bin the postal ballot.

In 2015 - Miliband is not by any means a shoe in in the forthcoming General Election. Plus and a very big spanner in the works, the electorate will slay the Lib dhimmis - that mid nineties experiment - sensitive Tories turning yellow has hit the buffers - up and down the country people are fed up. Coming home to roost, the realisation that "they're all part of the same old crap - the liblabcon" is definitely starting to sink in - even with thickheaded dyed in the wool, clog wearing, imbecilic, "me gran-fetha marched with Lenin" card carrying Socialists and Tory blue rinse brigade and shiresmen/women.


OK, on UKIP - reading between the lines - this is not just about leaving the EU [although it is if you know what I mean]. For many people, UKIP policy ideas and pragmatism; on immigration, energy and taxes make good reading and appeal, the implementation however difficult - is a moot point at this juncture.

The British awakening, is a crisis for the political old guard and definitely not - is it just about the EU.

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Could it be, that Cameron is setting the EU up, showing he's ready to negotiate and knowing that the colleagues never will and that nowt will accrue - then to go back to Westminster to declare, "I am invoking article 50!"

Ah, um, er - OK - dream on

Cameron has already "had" a lot of people once. Certainly for me, a manifesto pledge is not enough as Stuart Wheeler discovered they are worthless.

IMHO, a brilliant post, Richard