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#1 Posted : 14 January 2013 09:33:08(UTC)
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One can entirely sympathise with Mr Cameron's lament that: "We must stop the 'bossiness of Brussels". But he then spoils it all by saying that the "beating heart of Britain" knows we need to remain in the European Union.

This is a man who, unfortunately, is displaying his lack of grounding in the history and nature of the European Union. It is necessarily "bossy" because it is our supreme government. And supreme governments "do" bossy because that's what supreme governments do.

We are back, therefore, to the type of wishful thinking that spawns barking cats, the object of a commentary by Nobel Prize-winning economist, Milton Friedman, and his wife Rose in a 1973 analysis of the reform of the US FDA.

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#2 Posted : 14 January 2013 10:01:49(UTC)
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Richard. That idiot Kirkup is plying his usual drivel here. Whatever happened to investigative journalism.

http://blogs.telegraph.c...the-pms-european-policy/
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#3 Posted : 14 January 2013 10:09:25(UTC)
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Cameron has surely been told that the EU doesn't work that way. He's whistling in the dark.

Even Allister Heath ducks the main point. The EU wouldn't offer us radical repatriation even if we had a decent negotiating position (whereas ours is laughable). What then?

http://www.cityam.com/la...-gone-sour-so-many-firms

Meanwhile Patrick Wintour tweets that
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Comres poll shows drop in support for EU withdrawal since last October. People now oppose withdrawal by 42%-33%. In October it was evens.



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#4 Posted : 14 January 2013 10:21:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: John Page Go to Quoted Post
Cameron has surely been told that the EU doesn't work that way. He's whistling in the dark.

Even Allister Heath ducks the main point. The EU wouldn't offer us radical repatriation even if we had a decent negotiating position (whereas ours is laughable). What then?

http://www.cityam.com/la...-gone-sour-so-many-firms

Meanwhile Patrick Wintour tweets that
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Comres poll shows drop in support for EU withdrawal since last October. People now oppose withdrawal by 42%-33%. In October it was evens.





What was that about twitter being "blogging for morons"?

http://www.eureferendum....ogview.aspx?blogno=83509


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#5 Posted : 14 January 2013 11:10:11(UTC)
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The analogy with cats and dogs is one of the best I have read. If there is anyone in government actually reading this blog (probably not as it exposes the truth which is what they do not want), then I hope that they take your fine words on board.

I have had many arguments with my local MP about the EU and "global warming" and despite all the evidence I have supplied him on both he is in complete denial.

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#6 Posted : 14 January 2013 12:29:16(UTC)
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I think part of the problem is that a lot of the Tories at Westminster actually believe this nonsense that Brussels has got too big for its boots and it can be reformed away from that, thus fundamentally misunderstanding the nature and purpose of the EU.
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#7 Posted : 14 January 2013 12:43:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: John Page Go to Quoted Post
Cameron has surely been told that the EU doesn't work that way. He's whistling in the dark.

Even Allister Heath ducks the main point. The EU wouldn't offer us radical repatriation even if we had a decent negotiating position (whereas ours is laughable). What then?

http://www.cityam.com/la...-gone-sour-so-many-firms

Meanwhile Patrick Wintour tweets that
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Comres poll shows drop in support for EU withdrawal since last October. People now oppose withdrawal by 42%-33%. In October it was evens.





If he has he is not letting on,but then again all so called EU experts in the media are still falling in with the idea we can somehow renegotiate powers.Smaller businesses are rebelling but it is probably not enough to counter the big guns of the mega corporations.

However once everyone wakes up to the fact we cannot rewrite the LT single handedly the mood may swing back toward a more eurosceptic view.We are in a"phoney war" stage,the real battle will commence once we get past that realization.

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#8 Posted : 14 January 2013 13:02:56(UTC)
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I did enjoy his "bossiness" comment since as we all know our own politicians and "civil servants" gold plate every directive and regulation they get their hands on.
As I was writing this, the newsreader on Radio 3 said "that Cameron is confidant that he can get some renegotiation with the EU". In his bloody dreams!!!
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#9 Posted : 14 January 2013 13:03:58(UTC)
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What becomes increasingly clear, as the Europhiles develop and expound their position, is that the ONLY way they could get the renegotiation they say they want would be via Article 50 and of course it would also give us Eurorealist what we want.

The trouble is our political class are so detached from the real world they will fail to see this.

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#10 Posted : 14 January 2013 13:47:49(UTC)
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I think Cameron is fully aware of the reality of what can and can't be done, what he's counting on is most of the electorate don't realise and on that I fear he may be right. Go and ask the man next door what article 50 is. You'd probably get: "is it some sort of clothing or an item in an auction."
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#11 Posted : 14 January 2013 14:18:46(UTC)
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