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Jeremy Warner is in the increasingly europhile Telegraph today, declaring his hand for the European Union. He tell us that "things on the Continent have a nasty habit of going wrong when the UK retreats behind its island shores" and fails to see what would be achieved by leaving the European Union, "beyond the saving on the price of club membership, which amounts to 'just' 0.24 per cent of GDP". Nevertheless, he concedes that "Europe" has become "a racket". Any institution that can routinely ignore the referendum votes of its member states has got to be viewed with the utmost suspicion, he writes then adding – by way of example - that the prospect of Britain having "important parts of her transport policy determined by a former Estonian communist is beyond ridiculous". View full article here
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Jeremy Warner must be a huge disappointment to his father, Gerald, who wrote an almost always excellent blog at the Barclay Bros Beano for a while. Because the blog was hostile to the idea of EU membership and AGW and "the Big Society" etc, Gerald was quickly and quietly purged. He has sought sanctuary at The Scotsman, writing this at the end of last year: "Europe is fatally toxic for 'cast-iron' Dave; in 2013 it will become an even worse nightmare for him, regardless of the synthetic Eurosceptic grandstanding in which he will indulge." That sentence is worth 1,000 of his son's. Edited by user 11 January 2013 13:12:19(UTC)
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I stopped reading Warner months ago after a couple of pieces he did on euro and ECB.The man simply has no understanding of finance or economics whatsover. The Telegraph bills him(masquerading I d say)as " one of Britain's leading business and economics commentators" which says a lot about the sorry state the press is in. One day those at the DT will pick a side and stick to it,though Ambrose is still worth a read. Edited by user 11 January 2013 11:53:26(UTC)
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It's sad that the "grown-up" insert you get with "The Middleton and Balding News" is revealing itself as another apologist for the subjugation of the UK to whatever the EU decides is best. What next - a love letter from Ambrose to Rumpy-Pumpy? It's even stranger in that Warner et al have repeatedly exposed the madness of the Euro and the inevitable destruction of the less competitive economies within it. Presumably the boys have poor job prospects elsewhere and will do as they're told but it does give the lie to the idea of the eurosceptic British press we hear about, which appears to be the Express and the Sun at this moment. How long can Booker keep his columns with this increasing push from "our betters" to fix the conversation.
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Warner, asks some questions, then comes up with the wrong answer = what else on the Dailyfailuregraph? Barclay bros, hell's teeth they cannot allow their precious rag to be used to promote anything other than uniformity; we love the EU, the EU is good and better than JC, mankind is killing the earth via mmCO2=AGW and everything 'green' is wondrous, investment bankers are saints, [strike]Britannia[/strike] cronyism rules the waves et bloody cetera. Clegg? Well he can 'jog off'. Edited by user 11 January 2013 14:05:44(UTC)
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Quote:Originally Posted by: Robertm As Cameron has repeatedly said he will not leave the EU he really is up a blind alley. Unable to repatriate powers and unwilling to give an in/out referendum, what is he going to offer? http://www.food-design.co.uk/ I prefer Harrogate toffee to fudge.
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But look who's slamming Barroso' Deceit and the eurozone mess: Quote:That this calamitous state of affairs has nothing to do with the euro, and the policies it has prescribed, seems, to put it at its most generous, deeply unlikely.
Of course, the point that Barroso is making is that were it not for the irresponsibility of national governments, none of these measures would be necessary. This is complete balderdash too, for both Spain and Ireland were in fiscal surplus before the crisis hit.
To stand there and deny that the one size fits all monetary policy of the single currency might have been just the tiniest bit responsible for the unsustainable credit and construction booms these countries experienced is to occupy a fantasy world of quite breathtaking proportions.
Barroso and others like him just cannot bear the thought that everything they have worked for, and based their entire careers on pursuing, has been proved hopelessly flawed, so they seek to blame others, rather than accept the truth. Belief in the euro has become worse than a religion, for it is actually a deceit, a propaganda visited on the hapless citizens of Europe. Why, it's none other than ...Jeremy Warner.
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Originally Posted by: Frank Davis  But look who's slamming Barroso' Deceit and the eurozone mess: Quote:That this calamitous state of affairs has nothing to do with the euro, and the policies it has prescribed, seems, to put it at its most generous, deeply unlikely.
Of course, the point that Barroso is making is that were it not for the irresponsibility of national governments, none of these measures would be necessary. This is complete balderdash too, for both Spain and Ireland were in fiscal surplus before the crisis hit.
To stand there and deny that the one size fits all monetary policy of the single currency might have been just the tiniest bit responsible for the unsustainable credit and construction booms these countries experienced is to occupy a fantasy world of quite breathtaking proportions.
Barroso and others like him just cannot bear the thought that everything they have worked for, and based their entire careers on pursuing, has been proved hopelessly flawed, so they seek to blame others, rather than accept the truth. Belief in the euro has become worse than a religion, for it is actually a deceit, a propaganda visited on the hapless citizens of Europe. Why, it's none other than ...Jeremy Warner. This is of course all correct(he probably read it somewhere)...so why does he then do an about face and say then EU is worth staying in so we can change it?How can the UK change all that on its ownsome?
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Follow up post.....Looks like Warner has been feeling the heat and has done a bit of an about turn....still clinging to the "renegotiation of powers" myth though. http://www.telegraph.co....the-silent-majority.htmlEdited by user 15 January 2013 08:51:10(UTC)
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