Here we go again, with the predictable tactics. Get a bunch a corporates fronted by a "personality" to wham off a letter to the Financial Times telling how the world will come skidding to an end if we leave the EU. Then sit back and wait for the news agencies to pick it up and then, before you know it, all the patsies in the legacy media will have picked it us.

The poster boy in this case is ex-thief Richard Branson, the 62-year-old whom the europhiles have chosen to lead their youth-focused EU referendum campaign, all centred around a rebranded group called the Centre for British Influence Through Europe.

In a taste of things to come, this dire organisation is asking for volunteers to share its content and material with their friends and followers, to make them "aware of any Europhobic articles online" and to provide them with "rebuttal lines for Europhobic articles online".

View full article here

Watching the europhiles and europlastics competing for for the gold medal in incompetence is proving almost as entertaining as the spectacle of Boy Dave digging deeper and deeper into his self made hole. Pity that the consequences are so serious!

So the answer is more Europe. That looks like a real vote winner after 40 years experience.

There is I believe a palpable sense of 'fear' creeping into the 'in' camp, judging by the scare stories and fantasy's of renegotiation that are touted out again and again, the increasing frequency and intensity are evidence of such. They are losing ground (not much yet) thanks to the efforts of bloggers and commentators exposing the lies. We may have won a small battle re OE and Persson but the war is long and there will be considerable attrition before it ends.

However I agree with Ravenscar.... judged on one simple fact; they still have the 'power' to do what they want, up to and including taking us into the Euro and ever tighter union via the new treaty being considered. It matters not how much we oppose such, how vociferous we are on blogs media et al...they still have the 'power' to do what they want. And I would not discount the probability of Cameron or one of his ilk (whatever to colour of the rosette) taking us down such a path on the pretext of the lies so far (govt. by fax/ no say/ fiscal stability etc etc) and others that they can make up.

We must get motoring on The Harrogate Agenda....it is the only positive vision and positive alternative to the EU. It is the antithesis of the EU, combined with continued exposure of the lies and that the status quo (re trade and economy) would not change overnight on invoking aticle 50. And it would resonate far more powerfully than the negative unilateral repeal of ECA 1973 that Farage thinks is a magic wand.

The battle won so far against OE and Persson was reactive and very satisfying but it was still reactive as is this article in response to Branson and his ilk.

The Harrogate Agenda gives us the opportunity to take the initiative and get on with our own agenda, then and only then as it grows will the opposition become reactive to us and then is when the balance tips in our favour and we start to see the victory we so desperately want.

Edited by user 09 January 2013 11:41:38(UTC)  | Reason: E&O

I had thought him a mere mountebank until I read Tom Bower's "Branson".

No problem. Make a cast-iron promise to debate the referendum result in Parliament if a NO vote majority eventuates and is large enough -- say 105%.

Couldn't help noticing that the hand-help and slightly crumpled Union Flag at the top of the 'The Team' page is upside down. Very apt.
http://britishinfluence.org/about-cbi/the-team

I sometimes wonder if the other side understand the nature of Cameron and the fix he's in.

Cameron has made it plain he does not want the UK to leave the EU. Unless he was forced to, he wouldn't talk about the EU at all. However, he has to put on a bit of a show which is becoming less convincing by the day.

It's in all the integrationists' interests that he sells his smoke and mirrors in a few days time. If he came down and offered nothing to tempt eurosceptic interest, or worse showed he was determined to stay in come what may and alienated eurosceptics further, the Conservative Party which has sucked up and dissipated anti-EU sentiment, would no longer be a pro-EU asset.

Grand plan? Yeah right.

At the very heart of the debate, the essence and whosoever attempts to regale the masses with stories of how wondrously beneficent is the mighty EU. This ethereal 'milk of human kindness' and liberte, egalite, fraternite, all are impossible promises of some future utopian paradise and all made by politicians - not one of these grinning masks, can actually put a finger on how or, exactly what it is that the EU does actually bestow its munificence upon its lowly subjects. The economic stagnation and economies going into long term reverse - belies their [the EU] inane and constant but empty braggadocio.

In other words, what the hell is the EU ever going [or ever has done?] to do for us?

The British are 'getting it' - the penny is dropping.

All Britain does, is to pay in to a bottomless pit, a black hole of taxation and money leaching, bureaucratic, micromanagement of the power mad fat controllers. The British, if they're not fully conscious of the full implications of the slave empire [EU] do sense that they have been sold a dead rat and inevitably that dead rat [the EU] is corruption turning to putrefaction - the grand projet is DEAD. No words and lies from mouthpieces like Branson can change the reality - he's a good barrowboy but he can't sell this one - the British public have had enough.

And Laughably, risible in the over elaborate machinations - in their headlong rush to federalisation - the euro is killing the old fat goose - ooh the irony and as the British view the riots and protests in Spain, Greece [and soon France?] - it is plain to see.

good point Peter re FSB: as an existing member I shall watch closely the developments and update

And they wheeled out Leon Brittain this morning on Radio 4 indeed they must be desperate!!