The German press has picked up the interview of David Cameron on the Andrew Marr show. They see as "blackmail" Cameron arguing that he is "entitled" to use the threat of a veto to get his repatriation agenda accepted.

Thus does Spiegel emerge, with not one but two pieces,. The first (headline illustrated above) has Cameron threatening a "blockade" while the second suggests that he is driven by "EU-haters".

The magazine sums up his contribution by stating that his ploy to block the integration of the eurozone unless the UK was exempted from some EU laws, "sounded almost like blackmail".

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Europhiliacs and Eurowithdrawalists are both agreed that Cameron's (and the Conservatives') talk of picking the cherries off the EU cake is ridiculous.

It's purely a bottle of Conservative snake oil, not even that, they say they have the bottle and the recipe but they haven't got round to making the snake oil yet. It's virtual snake oil, or vapourware as they say in the software business.

What puzzles me is his apparent belief that he can get away with it. I am really struggling here ... does he really believe his own propaganda?

Part of the craft is to appear to deeply and sincerely believe the plainly ridiculous.

He can't do anything else. He can't spell out the position clearly. The 'In Europe but not ruled by Europe' line has always been a comforting lie. They can't come clean and come down on one side or the other, but anyone with any sense can see that if they rule out leaving, then we are in, and more and more are losing patience. This has always been about managing the Tory anti-EU following.

He might be able to get away with it til the next GE by plying the old line. If he makes a clear and realistic statement, he hasn't got away with it, he's defeated the long established Tory strategy of kidding people along.

Er, don't you mean Ed Miliband?

Spiegel, are the left leaning EU patsies of the German high command - who gives a fig what they think.

I can't see, how Cameron is gonna get the colleagues to promise aught, he has no 'big guns' unless of course he gets real and brings out big Bertha aka clause 50 - the sound of that will make 'em - those bastards sit up in Brussels.

There is not one chance in a million, that he [Mr. Cameron] will do what we propose, even if the Tories had a clear majority but with Nickelarse [and with their renewal of marriage vows "the coagulation is strong!" today] at his side - the EU wormtongue - there's more chance of hell freezing over.

So back to idle speculation and reading the runes.


And this gives us another clue, as to what will happen from Timmy.



I thought I'd um... rephrase that bit.

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I'd say Spiegel has got it pretty right, the Green Tosser is reacting to UKIP. Without UKIP there would be no speech.

I'd also say that the German EUWhores are very worried about what is happening here, because if we leave the whole project will go up in smoke, as the terms of the new "save the Zero pact" will be horrendous for everyone, especially democracy wise, or they'll never get through the Bundestag.

Not being a German slave for eternity will be very appealing.......

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Yes I agree.
With Blair he was delusional and thought he was the greatest advocate ever and could convince anyone of anything but surely we can't have another one?Not three in a row!

Cameron must lose.No matter what is in this speech he losses.

I don't think the European political class care much about the opinions of citizens.

The problem for the Franco-German leadership is not only the loss of the UK's contribution but having an alternative economic and social model so close.Because that is what will happen once we are free from the EU, we will revert to an Anglosphere model.