No sooner does David Cameron raise the profile of "Europe" then like a rat up a drainpipe, out pops Peter Mandelson to warn us of the terrible danger to which we have been exposed.

All the old rhetoric dribbles out from a man to whom being offensive comes as second nature. We are "anti-Europeans" and the Tories are risking dividing into "irreconcilable factions", which is what happens "when madness takes over a political party". Then, for the coup de grace, placing this "large and indefinite question mark" over our membership of the EU is "economically insane".

One presumes that Mandelson is trying to bore us to death. We've heard this sort of thing time and time again. He has nothing new to say, and very little of interest to add. Just the same tired invective and the same old, same old scare tactics.

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What? - and who is PM proposing will do any of this - The Miliband led Labour Party?


seems to indicate that he believes shouting is a viable strategy.

This is farcical bilge of the most concentrated, undiluted sort. Rolf Harris should enter politics - at least he can handle a broad brush / big picture with some convincing aplomb.

? ... now let me see... coming from a slimeball who's cut a path of brazen / unblushing oh.. you know the rest.

Just woeful. I wish he'd drunk more Chinese yogurt

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Does anybody anywhere really take Peter Mandelson seriously any more? Does he think that being an arch europhile and with his pension to protect that he should be taken seriously?

That could well be the motivation. Only I don't think they're that co-ordinated.

Of course the BBC still takes him seriously which is why I haven't paid my TV licence for 5 years despite being taken to court.

The lying and deception seem to have reached new highs recently, is there a whiff of panic in the air? Over several days now the same old junk has been recycled, over and over again. Thanks are due to the four or more Blogs, this one in particular, for keeping the truth out in public and providing those of us without the research skills to add numbers to the truth.

They haven't wheeled out the really big guns yet, Leon Brittan and the Kinnock clan!

This isn't closely coordinated and they can't stop these people from talking.

I don't believe the campaign has really started yet and these various statements are attempting to influence or run interference on Cameron's speech. I suppose Mandelson is at least usefully pointing out that Cameron's strategy of renegotiation is a non-starter. Once the renegotiation idea is demolished we have the alternatives of in and properly part of the project, including joining the Euro, or out. No one is seriously suggesting we joing the Euro these days, they are at least keeping quiet on that one.

Ripping the Conservative Party apart. It's been kept together by a dishonest balancing act for years. Cameron looks desperate because things are coming to a head on his watch and the balancing act is ever more precarious. Admittedly he's gone out of his way to make huge mistakes, such as calling UKIP names rather than ignoring them, and the Cast Iron Promise.

Upsetting the established order. The status quo is seen as worth preserving for its own sake. Stay close to nurse for fear of something worse.

All the vested interests keen on staying in the EU are a formidable array. See the EU as a politicians' and administrators' benefit club. Few of them believe in the spirit of Europe but they know which side their bread's buttered on.

I have thought this for a long time.

The thing I've never understood is why when in opposition lab/con are anti-EU yet as soon as they are elected they become staunch EUers. Though I have to admit that in the past few years the opposition have been staunch EUers.

Call me a conspiracy theorist here but it would never surprise me if the EU commissars delve, in depth, into every aspect of the politcal maggots & their families private lives and know things, that if made public, would destroy many of them, then when elected use what's known against them to toe the EU line.

I can't think of anything else as to why the maggots would do as they do where the EU is concerned, many don't need the money, and it certaintly isn't for power, as we all know that lies with Brussels.

I accept that there's quite a few maggots that despise this country and the indigenous people, but every maggot, whether Labour or conservative, has lied once in government.

They also know the consquences of unlimited immigration/migration, especially where muslim immigration is concerned, all the comments I read where people actually believe the maggots are either incompetent or out of touch baffles me, these maggots know exactly what they're doing, even the most stupid of the maggots can see the results of unlimited immigration/migration.

I know they don't care what they're doing to our children, but it appears these selfish, lying maggots don't care about their own children's futures either, then again they probably have their kids futures already mapped out.

I despise them with a passion.

Entertainment and national politics are merging, so that politics is becoming just another branch of the entertainment industry, along with the media.