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richard
#1 Posted : 05 January 2013 21:11:42(UTC)
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When David Cameron makes that "important speech on Europe" he promises later this month, is he going to fall flat on his face? So asks Booker, who recalls that, on Friday he told the BBC that he intends to give the British people "a real change in our relations with the EU" and to give us "a real choice about that change".

He added that he would be promising a "tough" renegotiation of the terms of our membership of the EU, but that it would not be in Britain's interests to leave the EU altogether. It certainly would not be "right for us to aim for a status like Norway or Switzerland, where basically you have to obey all the rules of the Single Market but you don't have a say in what they are".

What Mr Cameron seems to be offering, says Booker, is a referendum which he hopes will authorise him to embark on "tough" negotiations about a new relationship, while at the same time insisting that Britain wants to remain a full member of the EU, enjoying all the trading arrangements that go with the single market. Not for the first time, one has to wonder whether Mr Cameron has actually read the European treaties or has the faintest idea what he is asking for.

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#2 Posted : 05 January 2013 21:44:22(UTC)
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Cameron is toast in 2015. Of course a lot can happen between now and May 2015 but I feel that no matter what this idiot does or says then the Tories are finished. Many, like me, have supported them including being a party member throughout my adult life (in my 50s now). There is zero chance I would vote for them with Cameron in charge. Even if he hadn't made that "cast iron guarantee" I don't believe that he could win. Trouble is, Milliband is just as pro-EU as Cameron and things would not be any different regarding the EU.

I wonder if he will give a vision of what it would be like after 2015 if the voters were foolish enough to believe him? Will he say "By 2015, you will have the pleasure of having more Romanians and Bulgarians living in your neighbourhood. Of course us elite will only have to employ them as our servants, not to put up with having them live next door to us."

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#3 Posted : 05 January 2013 21:56:23(UTC)
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richard wrote:
What he must also realise is that this failure will also represent a personal failure. An unconvincing speech will perilously weaken his election campaign and, without a victory in 2015, Mr Cameron will become just another sad ex-leader of the Conservative Party.

I don't want camoron to be sad.

There — sorted!

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#4 Posted : 05 January 2013 22:03:32(UTC)
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What happened to strike? I haven't used it here before but I thought it worked on this blog.

Doh!

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#5 Posted : 05 January 2013 22:46:54(UTC)
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What happened to strike? I haven't used it here before but I thought it worked on this blog.

Doh!





it works ...
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#6 Posted : 05 January 2013 23:14:14(UTC)
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Come now Dr North, Cameron has spoken..
Quote:
David Cameron: I want to lead the country until at least 2020


Quote:
David Cameron wants to serve as Prime Minister until at least 2020 to oversee a wave of new reforms including a renegotiation of Britain’s relationship with Europe, he reveals in an exclusive interview in today’s Sunday Telegraph.


www.telegraph.co.uk/news...until-at-least-2020.html


God 'elp us...
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#7 Posted : 06 January 2013 00:01:24(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jaguar driver Go to Quoted Post
Come now Dr North, Cameron has spoken..
Quote:
David Cameron: I want to lead the country until at least 2020


Quote:
David Cameron wants to serve as Prime Minister until at least 2020 to oversee a wave of new reforms including a renegotiation of Britain’s relationship with Europe, he reveals in an exclusive interview in today’s Sunday Telegraph.


www.telegraph.co.uk/news...until-at-least-2020.html


God 'elp us...





Delusional.
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#8 Posted : 06 January 2013 00:15:49(UTC)
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I am quiet because it's all being said for me.
It occurs to me that the Venezuelans may well be better off than the British....at least Chavez is on his way out. Like us though, lord knows what havoc his replacement will wreak.
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#9 Posted : 06 January 2013 00:46:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jaguar driver Go to Quoted Post
Come now Dr North, Cameron has spoken..
Quote:
David Cameron: I want to lead the country until at least 2020


Quote:
David Cameron wants to serve as Prime Minister until at least 2020 to oversee a wave of new reforms including a renegotiation of Britain’s relationship with Europe, he reveals in an exclusive interview in today’s Sunday Telegraph.


www.telegraph.co.uk/news...until-at-least-2020.html


God 'elp us...

I think what Dave meant to say was he wants to lead the country for longer than Tony Blair, who in turn just wanted to lead the country longer than Fatcher.
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#10 Posted : 06 January 2013 08:44:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jaguar driver Go to Quoted Post
Come now Dr North, Cameron has spoken..
Quote:
David Cameron: I want to lead the country until at least 2020


Quote:
David Cameron wants to serve as Prime Minister until at least 2020 to oversee a wave of new reforms including a renegotiation of Britain’s relationship with Europe, he reveals in an exclusive interview in today’s Sunday Telegraph.


www.telegraph.co.uk/news...until-at-least-2020.html


God 'elp us...


Cameron clearly needs help doesn't he? Do any of his advisors not look at the real world; for instance all the comments on this Telegraph article? Is it really is like some dross dictatorship whereby the leader's placemen tell the leader the people love him even though the country is going down the pan. He is losing more of the Tories core voters day by day. What is wrong with the man?

ps - similar comments in the equivalent MoS article http://www.dailymail.co....rmous-reform-agenda.html

So most comments in 2 x Tory papers believe that Cameron clearly is dillusional.

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#11 Posted : 06 January 2013 09:37:19(UTC)
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Another good filleting by CB, Cameron is slaughtered but then just who is to blame for that?


Cameron, reminds me of a kids floppy stuffed animal, cute but no backbone and so dumb.
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#12 Posted : 06 January 2013 12:09:46(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: permex Go to Quoted Post
I am quiet because it's all being said for me.
It occurs to me that the Venezuelans may well be better off than the British....at least Chavez is on his way out. Like us though, lord knows what havoc his replacement will wreak.


Chavez replacement is an ex bus driver, (hand picked by the boss, you cannot have a somebody 2nd in charge ) I have nothing against ex bus drivers but to have one in the drivers seat ?

Cameron is going to get "tough" does that mean he will wave his feather duster?
Tough for that boy/girl is something a servant brought from the kitchen that was , like his brain, overcooked when he arrived.


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