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Originally Posted by: Ravenscar  And another thing, it seems some are hoping for a revelation from Cameron this mid Jan.
That boy, he doesn't have a 'revelatory bone', in his damned body. No, he is a consensus-managerial bod', a middle of the road, I can't make a decision without consultation - we'll see, in the meantime, nothing left to chance, all bases covered, angles etc, a maybe man.
And even if he does 'promise' something, we need some real conviction....... But then, miracles do happen, actually he could start the process, that he certainly could do.
Cameron knows, he sees the ground is shifting under his feet, the tectonic plates are sliding apart. A new reality is dawning on many people, the old politics of; everybody in the boat and a (Westminster claque of) left of centre liberal mush. Mingling its extravagant welfarism and public sector bonanza but it is going forever, the financial reality is beginning to bite and bite down extremely hard. We and the whole of Europe just cannot afford it. Unless it is stopped, it will result in an economic and social catastrophe, the likes of which have not been witnessed since the fall of the Empire of Rome. Put simply. big state spending and opening the spigot, diffusing the money like a muck spreader. Sustainability and public 'investment' are the buzz words of the liberal cognoscenti, when actually they entail the economics of the madhouse. Slowly though, the nation comes to its senses [the rise of UKIP IS NOT JUST about the EU and Dave knows this] - and some [more than a few] are beginning to realize that a vote for ConLiblab = turning Britain into the dustbin of the world - which now we very nearly are. All helped, persuaded and encouraged from EU HQ @ Berlaymont.
So, whatever the Prime Minister 'promises' on mid January it is irrelevant to the Tory party fortunes, what Cameron could start though is point the way out of the maze of the EU entanglement, whether his mates [backers and cronies] will allow that remains to be seen. He has an opportunity to grasp the moment and become a man who can make history, the man who helped to initiate the navigation out of the clutches of the jaundiced Brussels Empire.
Maybe. Great post. Cameron could have wiped UKIP of the map with ease but that's not his stated position "I think Britain should remain in the eu" I realise that Richard has issues and history with Farage but without his input we would not be having the discussion for at least ten more years, the governments position would be it's all going swimmingly nothing to see here move along. I'm looking forward to said speech but I don't hold out and hope for much change, a calculated minimum to placate the populace. Only a miniscule percentage realise that without invoking article 50 there will be no meaningful negotiating at all.
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