Originally Posted by: Ravenscar 
What is slightly unnerving, Meacher and Aubrey and all that crew - did they consider for a moment - a bit like opening the Pandoran box - you don't know what's gonna happen or what will accrue................
Or was, is it, all intentional and purpose driven, one [as letmethink does] can conclude that even though the 'list' of very stupid people - like Meacher, did it with intent and with a very black malice aforethought.
We thought; Mao, Pol Pot and Stalin were the bad lads, perhaps we shall have to revise the list and ponder the very misanthropic ethos behind all of this - it is after all Malthusian dogma and extremely deleterious to their own kith and kin - WTF?!
I've often thought, the kapos and camp guards, the apparats in the Gestapo - the paper clip counters - they were just as bad as Reinhard Heydrich and Heinrich Himmler - lets stick Meacher, Miliband and Aubrey up there and include the DECC and DEFRA - all the minions of Brussels.
Yes, it's certainly a poser. What was Mao's, Pol Pot's and Stalin's true motivations? Mao was conservatively responsible for the death of 60million of his own countrymen. Why did he want to do this? what did he ultimately achieve? Maybe they were simply psycopaths?
Then we have Lenin, the archetypal environmentalist, followed in this regard by Hitler and more latterly Strong, Holdren, Gore, etc. . .
so what do Gore, Yeo, Huhne, Holdren, Hansen, Strong, Mann, any number of tin-pot dictators, etc., etc., have in common? They all have vast quantities of personal wealth that they wouldn't otherwise have if it weren't for this 'green' nightmare. If they really believed their mantra they would give every penny they had to support 'green' initatives. They don't. And even these people are just the small fry. How much Goldman Sachs, the Rockefellers, etc., make would probably be enough to reverse the world's economic meltdown.
I have no doubt that the vast majority of people working towards the 'green' agenda make no money from it and really believe in what they are doing. But . . . there is no doubt in my mind that eco-fascism is evil and is designed to make a limited number of people astronomical sums of money by playing on the general guilt of the developed world and with no consideration for the 'ordinary' people who will suffer the most.
What Cameron and Clegg's motivations are I have absolutely no idea.