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richard
#1 Posted : 02 December 2012 23:42:16(UTC)
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There are thousands of articles pouring out on the latest round of climate change talks. Fortunately, though, this one tells the story (above), and even the Daily Mail isn't far short of pronouncing the patient dead.

But if Kyoto goes belly-up in 1 January 2013, as far as the UK goes, it won't make a lot of difference. We have the Climate Change Act, the carbon floor price, and mad energy and water bills in the system. All it means is that, in committing economic suicide, the UK will be more and more isolated.

When it comes to climate change, therefore, it is the enemy within we really have to worry about. Failure is an option for the Doha talks – the agenda will go on without an agreement.

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#2 Posted : 03 December 2012 00:27:08(UTC)
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" it is the enemy within we really have to worry about.."
Too right - we seem to have a class of lawmakers who like nothing better than to make life difficult for us by enacting directives in the most draconian terms. Don't expect these mandarins to change their habits if - when - we shake off the shackles of Kyoto or Brussels - we'll have to prise their clammy hands from the levers of power.
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#3 Posted : 03 December 2012 00:51:45(UTC)
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Britain, is in a unilateral plummet to agrarian utopia but the race to turn itself into a green paradise, whether it be of the environmental eco whack job variety or, of the Crescent - is between two fanatical combatants.

Doha, do what?

Update and to further illustrate my point - be afraid, be afeart.

This from loopy-lulu, in global warming noos sister paper:
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Fazlun Khalid, founder of the U.K.-based Islamic Foundation for Ecology and Environmental Sciences, said it was time for the Muslim world to go further.

"It's absolutely frustrating," he said. "We get very little support from Muslims. They don't connect. We have to wake them up to the fact their existence is threatened by their own behaviour. Modernity and the economic development paradigm is about dominating nature. Islam, as you are aware, is submission to the will of the creator. We need to remind ourselves that we have to submit."


My highlighting - read the subtext and weep.

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#4 Posted : 03 December 2012 02:59:28(UTC)
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Glad to say that NZ has watered down its ETS to being completely redundant, and we have a parliamentary inquiry that has given shale gas a thumbs up.

Mind you, we have 16 Green MPs waiting in the wings to take us down the economic suicide path if and when we get a green/labour coalition.
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#5 Posted : 03 December 2012 04:39:01(UTC)
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Glad to say that NZ has watered down its ETS to being completely redundant, and we have a parliamentary inquiry that has given shale gas a thumbs up.

Mind you, we have 16 Green MPs waiting in the wings to take us down the economic suicide path if and when we get a green/labour coalition.


I wish you well. Here we seem to have a Green/Green/Green choice and none of them are Green!
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#6 Posted : 03 December 2012 05:37:48(UTC)
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Qatar, that's the motor racing circuit where they have the races at night on a floodlit track. Just about says it all about this crazy world.

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#7 Posted : 03 December 2012 07:35:37(UTC)
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Qatar, that's the motor racing circuit where they have the races at night on a floodlit track. Just about says it all about this crazy world.


Think you're thinking of UAE and Abu Dhabi where they have a day/night race
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#8 Posted : 03 December 2012 07:37:23(UTC)
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Qatar, that's the motor racing circuit where they have the races at night on a floodlit track. Just about says it all about this crazy world.


One thing I could never work out with the eco-facists in the media is that there has never been a clamour to ban motorsports and particularly F1. I would have thought that F1 cars "kill the planet" more than any 4x4; and this is only a "sport" rather than a must have. Money talks in F1 of course and the eco-facists get a lot of revenue when they show cars going round and round.

I think it striking the there has been hardly any coverage of the Doha jolly get together for the facists and the politicians/others who get taxpayers' money to travel to this talking shop. I suspect they realise that the public is in no mood to listen to this nonsense any more and are mightily hacked off that whilst belt-tightening is occuring around the world whilst the elite continue to spend, spend, spend.
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#9 Posted : 03 December 2012 09:33:35(UTC)
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Qatar, that's the motor racing circuit where they have the races at night on a floodlit track. Just about says it all about this crazy world.


. . . or why not check out CO2 emissions per capita for even more irony?

per capita co2 emissions
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#10 Posted : 03 December 2012 11:30:18(UTC)
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Qatar, that's the motor racing circuit where they have the races at night on a floodlit track. Just about says it all about this crazy world.


Think you're thinking of UAE and Abu Dhabi where they have a day/night race



Losail Circuit | Qatar on 7th April, 2013 the MotoGP is floodlit evening racing and so is the practice in the preceding days.
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#11 Posted : 03 December 2012 16:22:15(UTC)
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Wherever you have politics you have deep piles of hsit, the main cause of this hsit, is money, and this ciaos ( which is politicians trying to win the money sweepstakes ) is caused by;
who is going to divide the pie, those that loose out on the division get submerged in the hsit so they devise remarkable complex systems to get some of the crumbs left over, look into history and you will find that before this scam there was always another ( but never on this scale ) which, one can hope, means that the worlds politicians are getting more intelligent.
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#12 Posted : 03 December 2012 17:00:41(UTC)
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At least this time it is most unlikely to produce the Gore effect and snow! or is it?
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