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#1 Posted : 01 December 2012 21:08:52(UTC)
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The Government may have cleverly timed the publication of its Energy Bill, an initiative with the deeper agenda, carefully explained by Autonomous Mind.

It was a little transparent, though, bringing it out last Thursday to coincide with the release of the Leveson Report, in the hope that this would be a good way to bury bad news. But if few people understand the Bill, supposedly heralding the greatest revolution in our energy policy for a generation, this is because we aren't intended to understand it.

So says Booker in this week's column, recalling Ed Davey's Thursday statement, headed "An Energy Bill to power low-carbon economic growth, protect consumers and keep the lights on". This must have been the most opaque pile of gobbledygook ever delivered to Parliament. The only thing that can be said for certain about this master plan is that it is not going to achieve any of its three declared intentions.

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#2 Posted : 01 December 2012 22:24:34(UTC)
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In order to stop this madness, one country's economy has to be eviscerated by green sabotage. It certainly is shame that it's going to be your country, but better yours than ours. Let's just hope your people wake up and put a few heads on spikes before too much permanent damage is done.
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#3 Posted : 02 December 2012 00:04:30(UTC)
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The idea that our energy bills will be £94 lower in 2020 ranks alongside the claim that there are only 100 mature cod left in the North sea. Why do the politicians think we will fall for this? We can't even predict the weather so why £94 and not £95? Ridiculous.
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#4 Posted : 02 December 2012 08:44:16(UTC)
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I think it is quite simply astounding, how a man can spout such utter tripe and still have the reserve and control to keep a straight face - how does Ed Davey do it?

I mean, you're not going to tell me - that the eejit actually believes that rambling bollox,

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"An Energy Bill to power low-carbon economic growth, protect consumers and keep the lights on".



are you?






Er Yup.

Be afraid, be very afraid the loonies are in charge of the asylum.
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#5 Posted : 02 December 2012 09:13:42(UTC)
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It may be a little premature to say so, but I don't think that we are going to come back from this.

Our civilisation is a single vast machine, powered by electricity.

The zealots will switch it off, and the resulting damage will make it impossible to restart it.
Please hold: your call is important to us.
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#6 Posted : 02 December 2012 10:26:04(UTC)
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He is MP for Kingston and Surbiton. In 2010 he won with a majority of 7560 over the Tory who got 20898 with a turnout of around 70%. Now if somebody sensible enough who comes from that area took Davey's diatribe on board and exposed it for what it really is then maybe the idiot will be kicked out. Unfortunately if a Tory wins then that person will almost certainly be spouting the same line and therefore, it would have to be a dedicated Independent (or maybe even a UKIP candidate?).

I know in my area where we have an LD MP the drones will just continue to vote LD or Tory.
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#7 Posted : 02 December 2012 13:28:37(UTC)
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A quick Global Warming gag:

It's late Fall, and the Indians on a remote reservation in South Dakota asked their new chief if the coming winter was going to be cold or mild.

Since he was a chief in a modern society, he had never been taught the old secrets. When he looked at the sky, he couldn't tell what the winter was going to be like.

Nevertheless, to be on the safe side, he told his tribe that the winter was indeed going to be cold and that the members of the village should collect firewood to be prepared.

But, being a practical leader, after several days, he got an idea.

He went to the phone booth, called the National Weather Service and asked,'Is the coming winter going to be cold?'

'It looks like this winter is going to be quite cold,' the meteorologist at the weather service responded.

So the chief went back to his people and told them to collect even more firewood in order to be prepared.

A week later, he called the National Weather Service again. 'Does it still look like it is going to be a very cold winter?'

'Yes,' the man at National Weather Service again replied, 'it's going to be a very cold winter.'

The chief again went back to his people and ordered them to collect every scrap of firewood they could find.

Two weeks later, the chief called the National Weather Service again. 'Are you absolutely sure that the winter is going to be very cold?'

'Absolutely,' the man replied. 'It's looking more and more like it is going to be one of the coldest winters we've ever seen.'

'How can you be so sure?' the chief asked.

The weatherman replied, 'The Indians are collecting a shitload of firewood.'
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#8 Posted : 02 December 2012 19:26:15(UTC)
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Jembob said:-
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'Absolutely,' the man replied. 'It's looking more and more like it is going to be one of the coldest winters we've ever seen.'

'How can you be so sure?' the chief asked.

The weatherman replied, 'The Indians are collecting a shitload of firewood.'


Best laff I have had today...! LOL LOL

Thank you.

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#9 Posted : 03 December 2012 09:51:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Aurelian Go to Quoted Post
It may be a little premature to say so, but I don't think that we are going to come back from this.



Premature or otherwise, you are correct.

'Our' sovereign debt is over £1,000,000,000,000. Despite our beloved leaders' attempts at 'austerity', we are currently expanding this by over £2,000,000,000 a week just to keep our heads above water.

If the reverse were true (i.e. we were reducing the debt by £2,000,000,000 a week - which isn't remotely possible - and ignoring interest) it would still take ten years to clear.

It is not feasible to pay this debt back (not forgetting the state's unfunded liabilities) without massive inflation and devaluation. That will be the final nail in our 60 year decline towards an economic banana republic.



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Our civilisation is a single vast machine, powered by electricity.



you are of course forgetting the role of fuel costs (oh wait, that's 'skyrocketed' as well . . . hmmm)
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#10 Posted : 03 December 2012 11:39:38(UTC)
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If smart meters saved money we would be piling in to get them ourselves. If wind turbines saved money we would be piling in to invest in them ourselves and/or buying electricity from them exclusively.

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All this we will have to pay for, coupled with the tens of billions more we are to be charged for "energy saving" measures and "smart meters" to cut down our electricity use. Yet somehow, according to Mr Davey, "the average household bill will be £94 lower in 2020 than it would be without low-carbon energy policies being pursued".

Would there be any way to calculate the cost of our bills if none of this rubbish was enacted? The department should have done at least 2 sets of forecasts - one with all the extra taxes but without the renewables and smart meters and one that claims to demonstrate that renewables and smart meters would save us a huge £100 on average. I wonder if they did a third baseline forecast that had none of the climate change tax increases and none of the cost of renewables and smart meters. If not can it be worked out backwards?

We know they want us to spend another £100 billion plus over the next 10 years or so. Let's say £10 billion a year spread over maybe 50 million properties (households, businesses and public sector) would be £200 higher than they might otherwise be, and of course the cost to business and the public sector comes out of the public's pocket so the effect will be greater than that even if it doesn't appear on our bills.
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#11 Posted : 03 December 2012 12:17:32(UTC)
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I'm tickled today by the Daily Mail's absurd article,
Foreign states launch cyber attacks against water and energy supplies to 'disrupt daily life' in Britain, which reports risible contentions by Mrs May.

Why would they bother when our Westminster weasels are working so hard permanently to wreck these essential services by other, more old-fashioned means?

The inclusion of a paedophilia reference adds extra zest to the piece.
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