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With the Leveson report about to dominate the headlines, the Government has chosen today, of all days, to publish its Energy Bill, thereby ensuring minimum scrutiny by a self-obsessed media. And such as is offered by the media will fail to recognise in the proposals the Green Agenda writ large, imbibing the Agenda 21 doctrines of "sustainability". Thus, while an energy bill of the distant past might actually have concerned itself with ensuring that energy (and in particular electricity) production matched projected demand, dominating this Bill is exactly the same agenda that we have seen with water. This follows the principle of "decoupling natural resource use and environmental impacts from economic growth" established by United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP 2011), which is exactly what we see driving water policy. View full article here
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If all these ‘agendas’ come to fruition limiting resources and commodities that the vast majority have become dependent upon are rationed resulting in limitations and denial of such I foresee a day when mass protest and violence as a result of deprivation becomes the norm by the masses.
Whom it will be directed against is an interesting question though?
Any smart ‘dear leader’ of course will ensure they the plebs still get their daily fix of X Factor, Corra and I’m a Celebrity……but it’s when the juice for ipod this and iphone that and all the incumbent ‘connectivity’ associated with such is lost; as in the immortal words of Irving Berlin ‘There may be trouble ahead…..’
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Could be the best thing yet. Assuming the worst case happens and power cuts come into being sooner rather than later then perhaps enough people will be stirred into action. For my good self from this point on I am paying the leccy and gas charges net of the 10% + VAT green levy. As this is the only way to hit them short of seeking them out and taking them for a 'walk in the woods'.
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So the likes of Myrtle think that the Green Tosser will deliver on the EU, yet he allows lunacy like this Bill to be produced.
The whole damn lot are a menace to grown up society.
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Originally Posted by: AndyBaxter  If all these ‘agendas’ come to fruition limiting resources and commodities that the vast majority have become dependent upon are rationed resulting in limitations and denial of such I foresee a day when mass protest and violence as a result of deprivation becomes the norm by the masses.
Whom it will be directed against is an interesting question though?
Any smart ‘dear leader’ of course will ensure they the plebs still get their daily fix of X Factor, Corra and I’m a Celebrity……but it’s when the juice for ipod this and iphone that and all the incumbent ‘connectivity’ associated with such is lost; as in the immortal words of Irving Berlin ‘There may be trouble ahead…..’
This is where they hope the smart meters will save them. They can cut off all the appliances, but for the TVs and x-boxes. The plebs can sit in the cold and the dark, with the washing machines silent, but at least their "entertainment systems" will work.
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In my view cheap energy is the necessary and sufficient condition for economic prosperity, and every stinking loser politician who seeks to limit cheap energy or tax on the back of it is an enemy of the people he is supposed to serve. and a scumbag bastard to boot
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But where is the growth coming from that the Country needs? This is going to finish off industry in this Country because a secure and affordable energy supply is the first necessity of growth. I can not understand the mantra of "green providing the industrial growth" we need. The other point is naturally, who are these clowns to claim the right to ration the products of our advanced civilisation. They are elected to work in our interests, not in the interests of the UN, EU, greepeace or WWF, our interests have priority. Since they are incapable of doing that for which they are well overpaid, resignation is the only way for them.
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Originally Posted by: richard  Originally Posted by: AndyBaxter  If all these ‘agendas’ come to fruition limiting resources and commodities that the vast majority have become dependent upon are rationed resulting in limitations and denial of such I foresee a day when mass protest and violence as a result of deprivation becomes the norm by the masses.
Whom it will be directed against is an interesting question though?
Any smart ‘dear leader’ of course will ensure they the plebs still get their daily fix of X Factor, Corra and I’m a Celebrity……but it’s when the juice for ipod this and iphone that and all the incumbent ‘connectivity’ associated with such is lost; as in the immortal words of Irving Berlin ‘There may be trouble ahead…..’
This is where they hope the smart meters will save them. They can cut off all the appliances, but for the TVs and x-boxes. The plebs can sit in the cold and the dark, with the washing machines silent, but at least their "entertainment systems" will work. I'm always wary of labeling people who watch crap telly as plebs. It doesn't necessarily negate political opinions, real life concerns or other views. Mrs TBF for example is an avid fan of 'Pansies in Sequins' but it certainly doesn't stop her having strong political views nor strong views on the dumbing down of BBC News (This morning BBC Breakfast 'helpfully' told us Victorian houses are over 100 years old). As for washing machines silent, what better way to upset (without wishing to be sexist) the likes of Mumsnet whose readers will be unable to wash children's clothes for school at their convenience. I've long been of the opinion that the theory of 'bread and circuses' is overrated. The availability of food yes is important...but circuses? In this country we have an abundance of both yet the level of political dissatisfaction is high. Watching crap telly or playing computer games doesn't stop multitasking...
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Originally Posted by: richard 
This is where they hope the smart meters will save them. They can cut off all the appliances, but for the TVs and x-boxes. The plebs can sit in the cold and the dark, with the washing machines silent, but at least their "entertainment systems" will work.
Without smart appliances that really can't happen. They could cut off consumers in their entirety. There really isn't time to implement this scheme anyway if we are expecting power cuts in the next two or three years. This smart meter business looks like politicians being sold the promise of endless control, like these huge IT projects, but it's an expensive con. It certainly isn't thought through.
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Having just sat through 13 hour power-cut (usual thing here - gales and thunder storms last night) I can confirm the unpleasantness. It's amazing how much you can't do without some form of power. Reminds me of the 70's, although I do have an open fire now so at least there's some form of heat available. I just don't understand how the government can even consider putting the country back 100 years! They must know in their hearts (always supposing they possess one) that it's all a 'crock'. ......by the way TBF I'm rather fond of 'Strictly' myself. Edited by user 29 November 2012 12:49:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: meltemian  Having just sat through 13 hour power-cut (usual thing here - gales and thunder storms last night) I can confirm the unpleasantness. It's amazing how much you can't do without some form of power. Reminds me of the 70's, although I do have an open fire now so at least there's some form of heat available. I just don't understand how the government can even consider putting the country back 100 years! They must know in their hearts (always supposing they possess one) that it's all a 'crock'.
......by the way TBF I'm rather fond of 'Strictly' myself. How did you know what I meant?
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Thank God for small mercies. Unlike the United States, future Harrogate-inspired parliamentarians will have the option to deal with those responsible for this mess with a Bill of Attainder.
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Originally Posted by: TheBoilingFrog  Originally Posted by: richard  Originally Posted by: AndyBaxter  If all these ‘agendas’ come to fruition limiting resources and commodities that the vast majority have become dependent upon are rationed resulting in limitations and denial of such I foresee a day when mass protest and violence as a result of deprivation becomes the norm by the masses.
Whom it will be directed against is an interesting question though?
Any smart ‘dear leader’ of course will ensure they the plebs still get their daily fix of X Factor, Corra and I’m a Celebrity……but it’s when the juice for ipod this and iphone that and all the incumbent ‘connectivity’ associated with such is lost; as in the immortal words of Irving Berlin ‘There may be trouble ahead…..’
This is where they hope the smart meters will save them. They can cut off all the appliances, but for the TVs and x-boxes. The plebs can sit in the cold and the dark, with the washing machines silent, but at least their "entertainment systems" will work. I'm always wary of labeling people who watch crap telly as plebs. It doesn't necessarily negate political opinions, real life concerns or other views. Mrs TBF for example is an avid fan of 'Pansies in Sequins' but it certainly doesn't stop her having strong political views nor strong views on the dumbing down of BBC News (This morning BBC Breakfast 'helpfully' told us Victorian houses are over 100 years old). As for washing machines silent, what better way to upset (without wishing to be sexist) the likes of Mumsnet whose readers will be unable to wash children's clothes for school at their convenience. I've long been of the opinion that the theory of 'bread and circuses' is overrated. The availability of food yes is important...but circuses? In this country we have an abundance of both yet the level of political dissatisfaction is high. Watching crap telly or playing computer games doesn't stop multitasking... I hear that watching telly is an excellent way to pass the time while knitting a list of names.
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I don't need to worry because my electricity bill will be cheaper. Ed Davey said so and he is a politician and they always tell the truth.
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Hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The DECC, under the aegis of the EU and ably orchestrated by the one world government freaks in the UN........... and Ed Divy are shutting down Britain forever. All the while - the fearless and noble press and champions of the freedom of the British public are somewhat otherwise occupied.
All must hail - the march of fundamentalist green lunatics and common purpose cultural Marxists, in the pursuit of a mystical and rustic nirvana where the people are forced back on to the sunlit uplands to toil in the fields and actualising the vision of a Maoist cultural revolution - cry joy and triumph - the agrarian paradise is not far away comrades!
Do they hate us that much?
Surely it is true, the contempt that our administration demonstrates towards its fellow countrymen is on show here and all of this 'energy policy' has been well thought out, the Ts and the i's crossed and dotted and gold platted by our lot. This has the hallmarks of a carefully constructed design to reverse all of mankind's scientific and technological advances - since we shook off the blinkers during and post 'the Enlightenment' - 250 years of going forwards is now being reversed because of political theory based upon a scientific lie.
Incredible but that's what you get when you allow and sanction free rein to: eco and Socialist [intertwined] totalitarianism.
In conclusion. How do the energy companies think that their bills are going to be paid in future years - in Britain someone has to make something, build and produce - no cheap energy - no fekkin' industry.......we can't all be lawyers and civil servants and the Chinese will not continue to lend to us forever.
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My supposedly conservative council informs me not only that the well-known Didcot power station will close next year but that plans to develop the site are already advanced. I've always thought that in extremis we could ignore the large plants directive and keep them around for while, they are not after all broken and we are in danger of power cuts if the cloud cuckoo party's plans go ahead. We really need a backup plan for this unreal policy. Surely they know the lights must not be allowed to go out and that current plans are wishful thinking emanating from entryist luddites?
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Originally Posted by: mosquito  My supposedly conservative council informs me not only that the well-known Didcot power station will close next year but that plans to develop the site are already advanced. I've always thought that in extremis we could ignore the large plants directive and keep them around for while, they are not after all broken and we are in danger of power cuts if the cloud cuckoo party's plans go ahead. We really need a backup plan for this unreal policy. Surely they know the lights must not be allowed to go out and that current plans are wishful thinking emanating from entryist luddites? 'Tis true and it has caused a lot of unhappiness locally (I live in Didcot) Though worth noting that it's only Didcot A that is closing (the coal fired one) Didcot B is remaining open. It's also a backup station to the national grid and in the last few days it has been giving it the beans in terms of electricity generation. Lights are indeed going to go out.
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Originally Posted by: TheBoilingFrog  Originally Posted by: richard  Originally Posted by: AndyBaxter  If all these ‘agendas’ come to fruition limiting resources and commodities that the vast majority have become dependent upon are rationed resulting in limitations and denial of such I foresee a day when mass protest and violence as a result of deprivation becomes the norm by the masses.
Whom it will be directed against is an interesting question though?
Any smart ‘dear leader’ of course will ensure they the plebs still get their daily fix of X Factor, Corra and I’m a Celebrity……but it’s when the juice for ipod this and iphone that and all the incumbent ‘connectivity’ associated with such is lost; as in the immortal words of Irving Berlin ‘There may be trouble ahead…..’
This is where they hope the smart meters will save them. They can cut off all the appliances, but for the TVs and x-boxes. The plebs can sit in the cold and the dark, with the washing machines silent, but at least their "entertainment systems" will work. I'm always wary of labeling people who watch crap telly as plebs. It doesn't necessarily negate political opinions, real life concerns or other views. Mrs TBF for example is an avid fan of 'Pansies in Sequins' but it certainly doesn't stop her having strong political views nor strong views on the dumbing down of BBC News (This morning BBC Breakfast 'helpfully' told us Victorian houses are over 100 years old). As for washing machines silent, what better way to upset (without wishing to be sexist) the likes of Mumsnet whose readers will be unable to wash children's clothes for school at their convenience. I've long been of the opinion that the theory of 'bread and circuses' is overrated. The availability of food yes is important...but circuses? In this country we have an abundance of both yet the level of political dissatisfaction is high. Watching crap telly or playing computer games doesn't stop multitasking... point taken TBF: I shall stand in the corner with my Dunces hat on for however long Mrs TBF deems adequate penance.... my label however was generalistic but still accurate mehtinks to a specific set of people in this country from all demographics I'd argue who have neither the intellectual curiosity or capacity beyond their daily fix of 'bread and circuses'. it is the others that The HA needs to be sold to once we've alerted, informed educated and gotten them to take ownership of the poblem: i.e. the democratic deficit and concentration of power into the hands of the few.
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Originally Posted by: TheBoilingFrog 
I'm always wary of labeling people who watch crap telly as plebs...
Just for the record, I'm not labelling them - I wouldn't dare. Mrs EURef watches Dallas! I'm parodying the mindset.
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