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richard
#1 Posted : 26 November 2012 23:20:53(UTC)
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With the euro rescue and the pooled euro zone debt, Germany is bound to a corpse. The necrophiliac government would do better to cut their losses, says Dr. Gunnar Beck.

The ECB, and with it the entire West German party political oligopoly with its substitute religion of the blessed European Union and the totemic euro, meanwhile, are a major threat to the global economy. They maintain a system that will ultimately survive only as a soft currency country and at the cost of solidarity stagflation, but not as a zone of stability and affluence.

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#2 Posted : 27 November 2012 00:25:40(UTC)
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Germany is bound to a corpse.


As soon as German industry realises it is propping up and not milking Paddy, both Manuels, Nico, Michelle and Giovanni = there will be a gnashing of teeth in das Rheinland.

I have said that for a long time - the EU is a dead zone and Germany even if they had the funds....do they have the political muscle to pull the very reluctant electorate along with the business claque - it's a big ask.

Britain needs to get out [of the EU] now, in two years time - what is going to be left of the Brussels Empire?

Then, we can have a big new trading [only] agreement, with the Germans, Scandinavians and Dutch - who needs the rest of them?
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#3 Posted : 27 November 2012 00:30:21(UTC)
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Dr Gunnar Beck, does this man have a bodyguard? Talking like that is brave.
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#4 Posted : 27 November 2012 02:22:16(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Ravenscar Go to Quoted Post
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Germany is bound to a corpse.


As soon as German industry realises it is propping up and not milking Paddy, both Manuels, Nico, Michelle and Giovanni = there will be a gnashing of teeth in das Rheinland.

I have said that for a long time - the EU is a dead zone and Germany even if they had the funds....do they have the political muscle to pull the very reluctant electorate along with the business claque - it's a big ask.

Britain needs to get out [of the EU] now, in two years time - what is going to be left of the Brussels Empire?

Then, we can have a big new trading [only] agreement, with the Germans, Scandinavians and Dutch - who needs the rest of them?


That's a bit hard Ravenscar! The French make wonderful Cheese, I hope we will still be able to buy some of that?
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#5 Posted : 27 November 2012 03:30:56(UTC)
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Let me outline the plot of this story.

While I'd like to stick to the bare bones in order to be bring out the essence of the thing, unfortunately I'm going to have to pad it out with a lots of contextual flesh as context is very important. It's an everyday story—but especially for denizens of this blog—and it goes like this:

Man wakes up,
and tells everyone he's awake.
No one hears him,
'coz they're all asleep.

The End

I'm not sure where this fits into Christopher Booker's 'The Seven Basic Plots'.

Maybe it's not basic enough.
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#6 Posted : 27 November 2012 07:36:34(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: richard Go to Quoted Post
....... with its substitute religion of the blessed European Union and the totemic euro,


The EU and the Euro like all false religions has no roots amongst the people and cannot as a result bear any fruit.
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#7 Posted : 27 November 2012 07:37:39(UTC)
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Dr Gunnar Beck, does this man have a bodyguard? Talking like that is brave.


He works in London.
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#8 Posted : 27 November 2012 07:45:06(UTC)
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Recently had a chat with a Brit who lives and works back and forth in Germany.His view was that the Germany was doing just fine economically,he said he hardly noticed any difference, business wise, over the last few years.This is perhaps the problem,whilst Germany does not suffer, nothing will change,when they do that may alter.

He also said there was a general lack of empathy with Greece or any of the peripheries suffering,Germans do not see a reason to bail any of the peripheries out,blaming their lack of restraint for the problems they are all in.

All for one and one for all, the EU is not.

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#9 Posted : 27 November 2012 09:18:55(UTC)
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We have cheese up here Julian, it's called Wensleydale and it's friable and not half bad - I do like the French - when they are over there and not over here, our natural allies are not French speaking though, trade yes and I suppose - sometimes even with the Gauls, if you hold your nose.
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#10 Posted : 27 November 2012 14:44:50(UTC)
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If they were bound to a corpse they wouldn't have to pay for anything apart from the funeral.

I'm afraid that what they're bound to is closer to a sprightly early middle-aged American divorcee, with a penchant for summers in Nice and winters in St Tropez. Who doesn't earn much for herself, but 'Boy! can she spend it!'. And who doesn't look like settling down and cutting her outgoings any time soon...

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#11 Posted : 27 November 2012 18:42:37(UTC)
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Im a bit too thick to fully comprehend this but I think it comes under 'know thine enemy'
http://www.iea.org.uk/bl...9t-understand-each-other
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#12 Posted : 27 November 2012 20:39:12(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nemesis Go to Quoted Post
Im a bit too thick to fully comprehend this but I think it comes under 'know thine enemy'

http://www.iea.org.uk/bl...9t-understand-each-other






It is a distorted view, but then I've never felt the IEA really understood the EU. At its heart, the EU is nothing to do with economics. Economic integration, according to the Monnet method, is simply a means to the ultimate objective, political integration. Eurosceptics are prepared to accept a degree of economic integration, but reject the idea of political integration.

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#13 Posted : 27 November 2012 20:40:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Dodgy Geezer Go to Quoted Post
If they were bound to a corpse they wouldn't have to pay for anything apart from the funeral.

I'm afraid that what they're bound to is closer to a sprightly early middle-aged American divorcee, with a penchant for summers in Nice and winters in St Tropez. Who doesn't earn much for herself, but 'Boy! can she spend it!'. And who doesn't look like settling down and cutting her outgoings any time soon...



If you are bound to the corpse, you go under when it gets buried.
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