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richard
#1 Posted : 22 November 2012 23:18:44(UTC)
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Watching the to-ing and fro-ing on the EU budget all day is not quite like watching paint dry. It's more like watching multiple repeats of a badly scripted Punch & Judy show, where the puppet-master has forgotten the ending and has to keep the performance going until he remembers.

Despite the lack of developments, however, the Fourth Estate and the over-excited think-tankers have to generate their quotas of extruded verbal material, just to convince themselves that they are in the game, but it has about as much relevance to events as the muzak in the office lift.

What is far more interesting is the mood music drifting from the British politico-media bubble, where dim little brains are just beginning to what we were seeing last June - that the UK could be on the exit ramp, set for withdrawal from the EU in a few short years.

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#2 Posted : 23 November 2012 00:09:39(UTC)
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A good article Boss - couple of em er corrigenda - to set right and no, I am not a pedant [all of the time].

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it to distract
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#3 Posted : 23 November 2012 00:42:50(UTC)
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A good article Boss - couple of em er corrigenda - to set right and no, I am not a pedant [all of the time].

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it to distract
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umplement






dun ... and new keyboard on the way ... all the letters have worn off thus one, so I'm guessing a loy of the time wot the rite key is.
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#4 Posted : 23 November 2012 00:51:19(UTC)
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OK Rich' Woot RollEyes
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#5 Posted : 23 November 2012 01:08:45(UTC)
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Confused here: is it "Myrtus communis, common, European, or true myrtle, cultivated worldwide"?

or are your referring to Myrtha, the queen of the Willis, uses an evergreen branch (variously identified as myrtle, or mistletoe or willow) to command her ghostly troupe. The evergreen is symbolic of the dark months of winter and also the everlasting union of marriage, hence its use by Myrtha for her jilted brides. But Myrtha’s wand shatters when she is confronted by the superior power of the cross on Giselle’s grave (a fiddly trick to pull off on stage).

Here is a picture of your queen of the fairies Mrytha with her myrtle
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#6 Posted : 23 November 2012 01:28:02(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Julian Williams Go to Quoted Post
Confused here: is it "Myrtus communis, common, European, or true myrtle, cultivated worldwide"?

or are your referring to Myrtha, the queen of the Willis, uses an evergreen branch (variously identified as myrtle, or mistletoe or willow) to command her ghostly troupe. The evergreen is symbolic of the dark months of winter and also the everlasting union of marriage, hence its use by Myrtha for her jilted brides. But Myrtha’s wand shatters when she is confronted by the superior power of the cross on Giselle’s grave (a fiddly trick to pull off on stage).

Here is a picture of your queen of the fairies Mrytha with her myrtle




Will this help?
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#7 Posted : 23 November 2012 07:46:52(UTC)
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I have always thought myself to have reasonable intelligence and despite dropping out of college, not because I didn't have the nouse but because I couldn't hack the work really I guess, I have total respect to you Richard with the amount of data you can analyse and interpret.
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#8 Posted : 23 November 2012 08:01:44(UTC)
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Yes why MYRTLE?Confused Confused Confused


Wiki says its some kind of European treeConfusedConfused Confused

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#9 Posted : 23 November 2012 09:20:16(UTC)
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Yes why MYRTLE?Confused Confused Confused


Wiki says its some kind of European treeConfusedConfused Confused


Myrtle the Judas Goat. Myrtle was the name of the goat in the Waltons
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#10 Posted : 23 November 2012 09:33:19(UTC)
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Yes why MYRTLE?Confused Confused Confused


Wiki says its some kind of European treeConfusedConfused Confused


Myrtle the Judas Goat. Myrtle was the name of the goat in the Waltons





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#11 Posted : 23 November 2012 09:54:54(UTC)
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I quite like umplement, which should be defined as to do something reluctantly or hesitantly, because you don't really want to. It could come in handy in the context of tory negotiations with the EU..
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a negotiated exit using the Article 50 process. Membership of the EEA, nationalisation of all unadopted EU law, adoption of all third party treaties and a new treaty of affiliation - all with a 5-10 year review, should get us out of the Union with minimal trauma and buy us sufficient time to rebuild our statute book and redefine our own policies.

Love it.
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#13 Posted : 23 November 2012 11:34:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mosquito Go to Quoted Post

I quite like umplement, which should be defined as to do something reluctantly or hesitantly, because you don't really want to. It could come in handy in the context of tory negotiations with the EU..




It shall be so ... consider it included in the North dictionary.
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#14 Posted : 23 November 2012 12:41:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: richard Go to Quoted Post
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I quite like umplement, which should be defined as to do something reluctantly or hesitantly, because you don't really want to. It could come in handy in the context of tory negotiations with the EU..




It shall be so ... consider it included in the North dictionary.



I also like 'umplement'. Will the North dictionary be available for use by us in the south under the Harrowgate franchise? Or will you decide to umplement it (<-- see what I did there).
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Originally Posted by: Moth Eared Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: richard Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: mosquito Go to Quoted Post

I quite like umplement, which should be defined as to do something reluctantly or hesitantly, because you don't really want to. It could come in handy in the context of tory negotiations with the EU..




It shall be so ... consider it included in the North dictionary.



I also like 'umplement'. Will the North dictionary be available for use by us in the south under the Harrowgate franchise? Or will you decide to umplement it (<-- see what I did there).



I spose, actually, it should be unplement - the opposite of implement.
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#16 Posted : 23 November 2012 15:26:59(UTC)
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Interesting word 'bellweather'.

From the 'Dictionary of Cumbrian':

Bell wedder(noun. bel wedduh): indicator, or horn (of a car).
In 'olden days' some older, or less mobile, sheep were kept on the highest pastures to act as a sort of roving anchor for the flock. They were provided with a bell on a collar so that the whereabouts of the flock could be known, and were known as bell wedders (nowadays GPS and satellite tracking are used). This is an earlier version of the Middle English word 'bellewether', originally of similar meaning, but now corrupted to meaning 'leader of the pack', or even 'indicator of future events'.
See also Wedder.

Wedder(noun. wed’duh): a neutered (originally male) sheep.
Possibly from the Old Norse word 'hvatharr' of the same meaning. The word is closer to the Old German word 'wether' (of the same meaning), and has been used in this sense since at least the 10th Century.

Wonder if people know this?
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#17 Posted : 23 November 2012 16:56:29(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Spider Lake Go to Quoted Post
Interesting word 'bellweather'.

From the 'Dictionary of Cumbrian':

Bell wedder(noun. bel wedduh): indicator, or horn (of a car).
In 'olden days' some older, or less mobile, sheep were kept on the highest pastures to act as a sort of roving anchor for the flock. They were provided with a bell on a collar so that the whereabouts of the flock could be known, and were known as bell wedders (nowadays GPS and satellite tracking are used). This is an earlier version of the Middle English word 'bellewether', originally of similar meaning, but now corrupted to meaning 'leader of the pack', or even 'indicator of future events'.
See also Wedder.
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For an enjoyable demonstration of this lore, I recommend "Bellwether" by Connie Willis. (ISBN 978-0553562965]
It's an excellent comic novel.
And yes, there are some real sheep in it -- rather too many for some of the protagonists, in fact.

Please hold: your call is important to us.
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#18 Posted : 23 November 2012 17:14:56(UTC)
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Much as I hate to admit to watching the BBC, I only half caught Marta Andreason on the Daily Politics today (Fri) endorsing the same proposal a Richard - announcing intention to leave the EU before starting any negotiations. Im not 100% sure - will have to wait till it comes available on i-player. She has struck me as being a fairly sensible lass.
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#19 Posted : 23 November 2012 18:41:50(UTC)
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I always thought of Hannan as a licensed eurosceptic, free within bounds and under control.

It seems he's come out as a sock puppet. Not licensed and watched so much as given a brief and following it all along.

Now it's all hands to the pump and here's your new script Dan, deliver it with conviction. Forget the other crap, it's history.

If you can fake sincerity, you've got it made, and I mean that deeply and sincerely folks, I really do.
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