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richard		#1 Posted : 21 November 2012 13:50:47(UTC)
Rank: Administration Groups: Registered, Administrators Joined: 16/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,952 Location: Bradford Thanks: 96 times Was thanked: 293 time(s) in 245 post(s)		It's all very well the Mail slagging off the BBC but nothing that comes out of the Middle East (and many other places) via the agencies or the legacy media is reliable. View full article here
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Diehard_TH		#2 Posted : 21 November 2012 16:11:12(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 18/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 19 Location: SW England Was thanked: 3 time(s) in 3 post(s)		Your coverage of the Qana incident was what drew me to EURef in the first place and i haven't looked back. The BBC coverage of the current flare-up is just so biased as to almost be criminal even knowing of their in built bias. What continues to amaze me is the blatant fauxtography being used as propoganda by Hamas et al and the unquestioning acceptance of it by the Western media do they not check their sources, does no one at least question some of the pictures and reports? Try Israellycool for a great site for some sanity amidst the sea of anti-Israelly press. Funny how the media is only reporting current events as stemming from Israel's assassination of Jabari and not from the prior three 3 days of relentless Hamas rocket attacks on southern Israel.

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richard		#3 Posted : 21 November 2012 16:22:04(UTC)
Rank: Administration Groups: Registered, Administrators Joined: 16/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,952 Location: Bradford Thanks: 96 times Was thanked: 293 time(s) in 245 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Diehard_TH Your coverage of the Qana incident was what drew me to EURef in the first place and i haven't looked back. The BBC coverage of the current flare-up is just so biased as to almost be criminal even knowing of their in built bias. What continues to amaze me is the blatant fauxtography being used as propoganda by Hamas et al and the unquestioning acceptance of it by the Western media do they not check their sources, does no one at least question some of the pictures and reports? Try Israellycool for a great site for some sanity amidst the sea of anti-Israelly press. Funny how the media is only reporting current events as stemming from Israel's assassination of Jabari and not from the prior three 3 days of relentless Hamas rocket attacks on southern Israel. I've added a link to the post.
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IanReid		#4 Posted : 21 November 2012 17:46:44(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 20/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 51 Location: London Was thanked: 3 time(s) in 3 post(s)		Originally Posted by: richard It's all very well the Mail slagging off the BBC but nothing that comes out of the Middle East (and many other places) via the agencies or the legacy media is reliable. View full article here This time the Israelis are doing better in the propaganda war. Not only has the Donaldson tweet gained widespread traction, so has the Hamas killing and subsequent dragging of a body of an alleged Israeli spy. http://www.foxnews.com/w...s-body-through-streets/ People are beginning to see through the plucky Palestinians myth.


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Diehard_TH		#5 Posted : 21 November 2012 18:09:25(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 18/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 19 Location: SW England Was thanked: 3 time(s) in 3 post(s)		I wonder how much of this was a test by both sides for a possible future escalation. The missile fire and subsequent return bombings seemed to almost take a back seat to the social media war. Hamas seemed to be using missiles to provoke Israel into commiting 'atrocities' which it could then use to exert international pressue on Israel to agree to it's various demands. I'm sure the IDF are well aware of this hence their almost ott efforts to minimise civilian casualties and severe reluctance to commit to a ground assault. Whilst the proposed ceasefire will gain Israel some short term respite from Hamas missiles I can't believe that either side seriously think there will be any real long term progress towards peace.


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richard		#6 Posted : 21 November 2012 20:07:21(UTC)
Rank: Administration Groups: Registered, Administrators Joined: 16/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,952 Location: Bradford Thanks: 96 times Was thanked: 293 time(s) in 245 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Diehard_TH I wonder how much of this was a test by both sides for a possible future escalation. The missile fire and subsequent return bombings seemed to almost take a back seat to the social media war. Hamas seemed to be using missiles to provoke Israel into commiting 'atrocities' which it could then use to exert international pressue on Israel to agree to it's various demands. I'm sure the IDF are well aware of this hence their almost ott efforts to minimise civilian casualties and severe reluctance to commit to a ground assault. Whilst the proposed ceasefire will gain Israel some short term respite from Hamas missiles I can't believe that either side seriously think there will be any real long term progress towards peace. Three dimensional chess, with humans for pawns and real blood. A very nasty game, and we're nowhere near the end.
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John Archer		#7 Posted : 21 November 2012 20:52:50(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 17/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 370 Location: Albion Thanks: 3 times Was thanked: 66 time(s) in 50 post(s)		Diehard_TH wrote: Hamas seemed to be using missiles to provoke Israel into commiting 'atrocities'.... The Israeli war machine is committing atrocities all right. I'd have them up for war crimes. No doubt about that. None whatsoever. But it's committing those atrocities against its *own* people — by allowing the untermenschen islamic scum to rain rockets down on them. They could set things straight by napalming the whole of the gaza strip, thus neutralising the threat. Sorted! And no need for any Nurembuggering about afterwards.


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richard		#8 Posted : 21 November 2012 21:22:24(UTC)
Rank: Administration Groups: Registered, Administrators Joined: 16/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,952 Location: Bradford Thanks: 96 times Was thanked: 293 time(s) in 245 post(s)		Originally Posted by: John Archer Diehard_TH wrote: Hamas seemed to be using missiles to provoke Israel into commiting 'atrocities'.... The Israeli war machine is committing atrocities all right. I'd have them up for war crimes. No doubt about that. None whatsoever. But it's committing those atrocities against its *own* people — by allowing the untermenschen islamic scum to rain rockets down on them. They could set things straight by napalming the whole of the gaza strip, thus neutralising the threat. Sorted! And no need for any Nurembuggering about afterwards. Nice one John! And while you are about it, have you got anywhere else marked down for a spot of genocide?
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