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richard
#1 Posted : 18 November 2012 23:07:36(UTC)
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It was only a couple of weeks ago that we had Auntie Beeb is telling us that Labour was "repositioning itself" on "Europe" (meaning the EU), at which point we noted that we were seeing the classic "convergence" between the two main parties, so that there was no serious difference between them on the issue.

Thus, since we are now seeing a week when David Cameron goes to Brussels to throw his weight about for domestic consumption, Ed Miliband has to keep pace and come up with some "robust" ideas of his own.

So it is that this absurd man is calling for "major reforms of the European Union to make it work properly for Britain". Smile if you must, but this includes the budget, immigration policy and "rules banning national governments from helping business" – all the dog-whistle stuff that keeps Conservative leaders so entertained.

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#2 Posted : 19 November 2012 00:16:18(UTC)
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Mr Cameron will try to get away with a promise of renegotiation followed by a referendum, some time after the general election.


Yeah but which general election?

On the morrow and anyhow, Dave is coming out all water pistols blazing in the DT.


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Mr Cameron last year faced a backlash from senior officials when he described civil servants as the “enemies of enterprise”, an attack he later said he regretted.

Today, he will return to the issue, accusing some officials of impeding growth by foisting paperwork on businesses and delaying vital decisions for procedural reasons.

Whitehall must now undergo a “revolution,” just as it did in wartime, Mr Cameron will say. “Normal rules were circumvented. Convention was thrown out. Everything was thrown at the overriding purpose of beating Hitler. Well, this country is in the economic equivalent of war today – and we need the same spirit.”


Oh yessss - "a revolution". A war?.....Yep that's coming too thanks to multiculti............ yes indeed David Cameron - we need to revolve you out and through the bloody door.

Firstly, the bloke [call me Dave] is away with the faeries and secondly - if the economic situation is so serious [it is] then why are we still in the EU Dave???? Likening another review of the planning process [didn't we do this last week?] and casting down petty officialdom - to War with Nazi Germany................well we know what Dave's grasp of history [reality] is like but I really didn't know it was that poor - gotta get some advisors who have lived in the real world Cameron.

Yes, you see the problem here is Cameron and all his EUphiliacs [including those mates of his on the opposition benches and yes I do mean Miliband]. All of these numpties [Westminster], think, that the bureaucracy and slow strangulation of British enterprise and manufacturing by the Brussels red tape machine which now runs out of control. Then, the madness of CO2 emissions targets + the EU green agenda(s) and open door immigration, corporatism, statism and not forgetting the massive peculation and corruption of the the Brussels mafia - that all of that is somehow going to aid Britain's economic resuscitation - simply incredible bollox but there it is. And not to overlook the other er rather salient fact. that, the Coal and Steel community/EEC/EU is way past its sell by date - the welfarist big state model went out with Mikhail Gorbachev.

Revolve yourself Dave.

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#3 Posted : 19 November 2012 13:09:37(UTC)
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Imagine, just for one moment, that the BBC saw, as one of its duties, the facilitation of a culture in which a prime concern was the fostering and cultivation of a desire in the the population to understand all the many aspects of important matters affecting the wellbeing of the nation, and consequently themselves as individuals, and that it would therefore do its utmost to provide the listener with whatever means it could to allow this to happen.

Imagine, just for one moment, that the BBC really was an impartial informer as its charter dictates and that in the interests of impartiality they put out your analysis here as the view of one experienced observer but did so, naturally, along with other 'takes' so that the listener could form his own balanced judgement on the basis of hearing actual arguments, but especially incisive ones.

Imagine, just ... yeah, yeah, right, yeah.

No, really. Imagine how different things would be. That's how dysfunctional the BBC is now.

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#4 Posted : 19 November 2012 14:46:07(UTC)
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Imagine, just for one moment, that the BBC saw, as one of its duties, the facilitation of a culture in which a prime concern was the fostering and cultivation of a desire in the the population to understand all the many aspects of important matters affecting the wellbeing of the nation, and consequently themselves as individuals, and that it would therefore do its utmost to provide the listener with whatever means it could to allow this to happen.

Imagine, just for one moment, that the BBC really was an impartial informer as its charter dictates and that in the interests of impartiality they put out your analysis here as the view of one experienced observer but did so, naturally, along with other 'takes' so that the listener could form his own balanced judgement on the basis of hearing actual arguments, but especially incisive ones.

Imagine, just ... yeah, yeah, right, yeah.

No, really. Imagine how different things would be. That's how dysfunctional the BBC is now.


The whole idea that a broadcaster should be impartial is fundamentally wrong. It cannot be. Thus, we must have a plurality, and get rid of the state funding that allows a single organisation to flourish.

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