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#1 Posted : 13 November 2012 20:32:23(UTC)
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Despite the refusal of the BBC to reveal the details, the truth will out. We now have the list of members of the seminars organised jointly by the International Broadcasting Trust (IBT) and Cambridge Media and Environment Programme (CMES), aimed at changing BBC policy on climate change.

Already, via the Register, we know something of the CMES, established by activist Joe Smith and the BBC's Roger Harrabin. CMEP received funding from the hardline green organisation WWF and the UK government's Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs. It later transpired that £15,000 was also received from the University of East Anglia - the institution at the heart of the Climategate scandal.

However, equal partner in the enterprise is the the IBT, about which less is known. The accounts of this charity, though, show that in the five years ending 31 December 2011, it was paid no less that £397,691 by DFID.

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#2 Posted : 13 November 2012 21:02:23(UTC)
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Bloody hell,how many times to they get a notch up funding at public expense,and how many times do they need to relobby the lobbyists?
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#3 Posted : 13 November 2012 21:30:10(UTC)
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Over time the IBT has morphed from a producer of programmes about people in the developing world to lobbying on climate change.

DFID has been involved with the IBT from the very early days of the Department existing.

"What makes an effective development awareness strategy" 12th July 1999

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Glad to be here addressing your AGM. Thank you for the opportunity to talk about DFID’s strategy on Building Support for Development.

Since this Government came to power and DFID was established, we have put poverty eradication at the heart of all our development work. The elimination of extreme poverty from the world is the greatest challenge of the new Millennium. But it is a challenge that can be met.

We are committed to the internationally agreed development targets to halve the proportion of those living in extreme poverty by 2015 - which means a billion people working their way out of poverty within 20 years - and by the same year to have all children in primary education and access to basic health care for all. This is an ambitious target. But it is an achievable target if we generate the necessary political will, provide the resources required and adopt the right policies, nationally and internationally. That means sharing the challenge of poverty elimination much more widely, and of raising awareness of its importance for all of us.
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#4 Posted : 13 November 2012 21:39:17(UTC)
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The science is settled, just like the prejudice lies and deceit!
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#5 Posted : 13 November 2012 22:49:35(UTC)
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Dish of steaming schadenfreude today.

How to deal with these sprawling, incestuous, corrupt, secretive networks of influence financed from public funds by people calling themselves public servants?

My only weapons are not paying TV tax and directing the curious to enlightenment.

What would be truly delicious is mainstream big audience shows being shown up as cynically contrived propaganda vehicles and that the producers and writers are shown to be patronising elitists tipping thoroughly adulterated swill into the trough - slagging off the punters a la Gerald Ratner...

I'd bet that there's more than a few BBC goons desperately trying out how to work this wayback machine thingy from their iPads Smile

I have to say - I've tried it on other issues and damn it ... the sites I looked at weren't in there....



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#6 Posted : 13 November 2012 23:06:06(UTC)
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It seems to be a case of the serpent eating its own tail, and the BBC is turning out to be one big snake, such incestuousness and corruption clearly doesn't go unrewarded with pay-offs like George Entwhistle's.
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This is just begging for one of those loose-cannon documentary makers to come along and produce a 90-minute DVD exposé to splash out across the globe so that everyone can get to see what these utter fcuking slimy commie bastard thieving lying scumbags are up to.

What's Martin Durkin doing these days?
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Where are Mikgen, Bagua and Robin, to name a few, these days? I hope they are all keeping well.
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#9 Posted : 14 November 2012 00:03:24(UTC)
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The law of [un?] intended consequences always kicks in, the bbc have been responsible for promoting this lunatic green agenda - so it follows that these deaths can also be laid at the door the BBC and their cretinous advocacy of CAGW.

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Figures revealed that 1,876 patients were treated in hospital for the condition in 2010/11, an increase from 950 in 2006/07.

The number who died within 30 days of being admitted rose from 135 to 260.

Three quarters of those admitted to hospital with hypothermia were over-60s, with cases rising among that age group more than any other – from 633 to 1,396.

The statistics, released by the NHS Information Centre, cover a period in which soaring energy bills have been pushing more and more pensioners into fuel poverty – meaning they are forced to choose between heating and eating.


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And we know why but there are other reasons:
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The £8billion pension fund is likely to come under close scrutiny over its commitment to promote a low-carbon economy while struggling to reverse an estimated £2billion deficit.

Concerns are growing that BBC journalists and their bosses regard disputed scientific theory that climate change is caused by mankind as “mainstream” while huge sums of employees’ money is invested in companies whose success depends on the theory being widely accepted.

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#10 Posted : 14 November 2012 00:16:56(UTC)
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A "Chairthing" - is that terminology yours or is it doing the rounds? I really like this word. Every parasitic organisation worth its salt should have a chairthing at its centre doing the organisingthing.
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#11 Posted : 14 November 2012 03:37:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Julian Williams Go to Quoted Post
A "Chairthing" - is that terminology yours or is it doing the rounds? I really like this word. Every parasitic organisation worth its salt should have a chairthing at its centre doing the organisingthing.




BigGrin I have decided, in an ex cathedra sort of way, that "chairperson" is specist ... if there is such a word. Discrimination against different species is hereby prohibited. "Chairthing" it must be!

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A "Chairthing" - is that terminology yours or is it doing the rounds? I really like this word. Every parasitic organisation worth its salt should have a chairthing at its centre doing the organisingthing.




BigGrin I have decided, in an ex cathedra sort of way, that "chairperson" is specist ... if there is such a word. Discrimination against different species is hereby prohibited. "Chairthing" it must be!


Nice one! Very clever ... especially for all who catch the Old English denotations: ðing it is; or Þing, if you prefer BigGrin

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#13 Posted : 14 November 2012 05:20:24(UTC)
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A "Chairthing" - is that terminology yours or is it doing the rounds? I really like this word. Every parasitic organisation worth its salt should have a chairthing at its centre doing the organisingthing.




BigGrin I have decided, in an ex cathedra sort of way, that "chairperson" is specist ... of there is such a word. Discrimination against different species is hereby prohibited. "Chairthing" it must be!

I too noticed it and liked it.

Before seeing your explanation I entertained the idea that 'chairthing' was intended specifically for use in instances when wimmin (or suspected wimmin) served as chairmen, but that otherwise the traditional generic word 'chairman/men' would be used, i.e. for both men and women, and, of course, NEVER 'chair'.

I think it's important that, whenever and wherever one can, one should tread on as many peecee toes as possible, literally in some instances. In fact, I think one is morally obligated to give the maximum possible offence one can to anyone who expects one to adhere to these peecee diktats. They need to realise that their attempts to coerce and bully others into donning their twisted and controlling mental straightjackets are not only not wanted but might well incur ... well... let's say very severe reactions including ones that might well be damaging to their physical wellbeing.

Peecee is nothing but terrorism. The fact that it's generally practiced at below the threshold of physical violence is neither here nor there. Even if it is, that does not mean that the response to it has to be. However, I can imagine that those cases requiring a 'higher-level' response would be fairly rare.
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Originally Posted by: richard Go to Quoted Post
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A "Chairthing" - is that terminology yours or is it doing the rounds? I really like this word. Every parasitic organisation worth its salt should have a chairthing at its centre doing the organisingthing.




BigGrin I have decided, in an ex cathedra sort of way, that "chairperson" is specist ... if there is such a word. Discrimination against different species is hereby prohibited. "Chairthing" it must be!


I think ElectricChair would be more appropriate for them...

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#15 Posted : 14 November 2012 06:15:54(UTC)
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A "Chairthing" - is that terminology yours or is it doing the rounds? I really like this word. Every parasitic organisation worth its salt should have a chairthing at its centre doing the organisingthing.
I too was immediately taken by this apparent neologism. There are some situations where the desire to be polite and respectful, and the desire to be the preux chevalier fails us: those are situations where simple honesty demands a more earthy expression. I am a great believer in decorum and I have been an advocate for it on this site pointing out its appropriateness and advantages on several occasions (sometimes in the face of strong objections). But in all fairness, there are times when decorum gets to be a bit thick and a wise person stockpiles words such as "Chairthing" against such occasions. I plan to add this word to my vocabulary and I advise others to do the same. I doubt that I will ever use it, but I will feel better and more confident knowing that it is there if I ever need it.

I have been slow in posting this and, much to my chagrin, I find that Dr. North, euSSR Go Home and John Archer have been much quicker. I think it very telling that so many readers of this forum should focus in on one word. I especially like the philologistic twist of euSSR Go Home's introducing alphabetic letters that cannot be found on the keyboard and, by the way, I think that I prefer "Þing". Now I find that theenglishpainter has also dashed in ahead of me. Enough with "Preview," I need to punch "Post."
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Not that I read newspapers now, but I haven't seen anybody suggest that now may be good time to 're-structure' the TV Licence Tax... eg, abolish it.
Not that I pay that either, but I would have thought there would have been one or two headlines suggesting 'an Independent Enquiry should be set up to assess the way in which the BBC spends the money extorted from the general public...' blah blah...

Fat chance eh?
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Originally Posted by: Pluck Go to Quoted Post
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A "Chairthing" - is that terminology yours or is it doing the rounds? I really like this word. Every parasitic organisation worth its salt should have a chairthing at its centre doing the organisingthing.
I too was immediately taken by this apparent neologism. There are some situations where the desire to be polite and respectful, and the desire to be the preux chevalier fails us: those are situations where simple honesty demands a more earthy expression. I am a great believer in decorum and I have been an advocate for it on this site pointing out its appropriateness and advantages on several occasions (sometimes in the face of strong objections). But in all fairness, there are times when decorum gets to be a bit thick and a wise person stockpiles words such as "Chairthing" against such occasions. I plan to add this word to my vocabulary and I advise others to do the same. I doubt that I will ever use it, but I will feel better and more confident knowing that it is there if I ever need it.

I have been slow in posting this and, much to my chagrin, I find that Dr. North, euSSR Go Home and John Archer have been much quicker. I think it very telling that so many readers of this forum should focus in on one word. I especially like the philologistic twist of euSSR Go Home's introducing alphabetic letters that cannot be found on the keyboard and, by the way, I think that I prefer "Þing". Now I find that theenglishpainter has also dashed in ahead of me. Enough with "Preview," I need to punch "Post."
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This subject interests me. I have been blogging on EUreferendum for about ten years now and am never offended by Richard's language because everything he writes is well researched and he uses the right words for the right context.

In a local campaign against windfarms I have the job of writing the newsletters, and I find I constantly get into trouble for being straight in my language which is toned down compared to Richard's . I always illustrate the letters with pictures, the applicants for turbines are vultures with wheelbarrows full of money, the local Parish Council are mice and local councilors meercats. Boy do I get into trouble, both inside my group and with the authorities who are heartily offended.

http://sospembrokeshire.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/website-ready-the-secretarys-speech.jpg


I often wonder why Richard has not been asked on panels such as any questions. He has such a good grasp of what is going wrong on so many subjects. Even by people on his own side he is treated as an outsider. I can only presume it is to do with hurt feelings because his language is always a bit too honest for their ears. I think that is a real shame, and it reflects badly on the bad listeners rather than Richard's posts which as I said before are always well researched and written

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A "Chairthing" - is that terminology yours or is it doing the rounds? I really like this word. Every parasitic organisation worth its salt should have a chairthing at its centre doing the organisingthing.
I too was immediately taken by this apparent neologism. There are some situations where the desire to be polite and respectful, and the desire to be the preux chevalier fails us: those are situations where simple honesty demands a more earthy expression. I am a great believer in decorum and I have been an advocate for it on this site pointing out its appropriateness and advantages on several occasions (sometimes in the face of strong objections). But in all fairness, there are times when decorum gets to be a bit thick and a wise person stockpiles words such as "Chairthing" against such occasions. I plan to add this word to my vocabulary and I advise others to do the same. I doubt that I will ever use it, but I will feel better and more confident knowing that it is there if I ever need it.

I have been slow in posting this and, much to my chagrin, I find that Dr. North, euSSR Go Home and John Archer have been much quicker. I think it very telling that so many readers of this forum should focus in on one word. I especially like the philologistic twist of euSSR Go Home's introducing alphabetic letters that cannot be found on the keyboard and, by the way, I think that I prefer "Þing". Now I find that theenglishpainter has also dashed in ahead of me. Enough with "Preview," I need to punch "Post."
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This subject interests me. I have been blogging on EUreferendum for about ten years now and am never offended by Richard's language because everything he writes is well researched and he uses the right words for the right context.

In a local campaign against windfarms I have the job of writing the newsletters, and I find I constantly get into trouble for being straight in my language which is toned down compared to Richard's . I always illustrate the letters with pictures, the applicants for turbines are vultures with wheelbarrows full of money, the local Parish Council are mice and local councilors meercats. Boy do I get into trouble, both inside my group and with the authorities who are heartily offended.

http://sospembrokeshire.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/website-ready-the-secretarys-speech.jpg


I often wonder why Richard has not been asked on panels such as any questions. He has such a good grasp of what is going wrong on so many subjects. Even by people on his own side he is treated as an outsider. I can only presume it is to do with hurt feelings because his language is always a bit too honest for their ears. I think that is a real shame, and it reflects badly on the bad listeners rather than Richard's posts which as I said before are always well researched and written



You've hit on an interesting issue here ... EURef has its own constituency, but it is largely shunned by UKIPites (or Faragistas) for very obvious reasons, by little Englanders because we are too cosmopolitan, left-wingers because I am too right-wing, by right-wingers because I am too left-wing, by the media because I am so rude about it, and then my most other sections of society for one reason or another. I suspect though, that my greatest sin is to be right more than I am wrong - I am thus described as creating "disturbs". That is hard to take and I can quite understand why so many people want to stay in their comfort zones.


Nice cartoon!



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A "Chairthing" - is that terminology yours or is it doing the rounds? I really like this word. Every parasitic organisation worth its salt should have a chairthing at its centre doing the organisingthing.
I too was immediately taken by this apparent neologism. There are some situations where the desire to be polite and respectful, and the desire to be the preux chevalier fails us: those are situations where simple honesty demands a more earthy expression. I am a great believer in decorum and I have been an advocate for it on this site pointing out its appropriateness and advantages on several occasions (sometimes in the face of strong objections). But in all fairness, there are times when decorum gets to be a bit thick and a wise person stockpiles words such as "Chairthing" against such occasions. I plan to add this word to my vocabulary and I advise others to do the same. I doubt that I will ever use it, but I will feel better and more confident knowing that it is there if I ever need it.

I have been slow in posting this and, much to my chagrin, I find that Dr. North, euSSR Go Home and John Archer have been much quicker. I think it very telling that so many readers of this forum should focus in on one word. I especially like the philologistic twist of euSSR Go Home's introducing alphabetic letters that cannot be found on the keyboard and, by the way, I think that I prefer "Þing". Now I find that theenglishpainter has also dashed in ahead of me. Enough with "Preview," I need to punch "Post."
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This subject interests me. I have been blogging on EUreferendum for about ten years now and am never offended by Richard's language because everything he writes is well researched and he uses the right words for the right context.

In a local campaign against windfarms I have the job of writing the newsletters, and I find I constantly get into trouble for being straight in my language which is toned down compared to Richard's . I always illustrate the letters with pictures, the applicants for turbines are vultures with wheelbarrows full of money, the local Parish Council are mice and local councilors meercats. Boy do I get into trouble, both inside my group and with the authorities who are heartily offended.

http://sospembrokeshire.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/website-ready-the-secretarys-speech.jpg


I often wonder why Richard has not been asked on panels such as any questions. He has such a good grasp of what is going wrong on so many subjects. Even by people on his own side he is treated as an outsider. I can only presume it is to do with hurt feelings because his language is always a bit too honest for their ears. I think that is a real shame, and it reflects badly on the bad listeners rather than Richard's posts which as I said before are always well researched and written



You've hit on an interesting issue here ... EURef has its own constituency, but it is largely shunned by UKIPites (or Faragistas) for very obvious reasons, by little Englanders because we are too cosmopolitan, left-wingers because I am too right-wing, by right-wingers because I am too left-wing, by the media because I am so rude about it, and then my most other sections of society for one reason or another. I suspect though, that my greatest sin is to be right more than I am wrong - I am thus described as creating "disturbs". That is hard to take and I can quite understand why so many people want to stay in their comfort zones.


Nice cartoon!



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Careful you're using a well-worn BBC phrase to justify its impartiality.

The problem is you've become infected with Northern bluntness by living there too long. If only you lived in leafy Oxfordshire the gentle types of the legacy media would listen to you, like myself and Witterings...oh wait that doesn't work either BigGrin

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It may be of interest to note that some BBC defenders seem to be developing a response to the 28-gate issue by claiming that there was never any claim that the meeting at which 'top scientists' advised the BBC to alter their balance on Global Warming actually contained any 'top scientists'.

And therefore, by implication, there was never a need to have any specific direction or external advice to justify the loss of balance. The BBC just decided that they were quite at liberty to decide that there was no need to present both sides of the argument.

http://autonomousmind.wo...by-uncovered-deception/ refers.

I suggest that this raises the whole question of BBC impartiality again. It was raised initially when the BBC started supporting the green activists, and this rejection of impartiality was justified by reference to this meeting, which was painted as some kind of special independent due-diligence check which the BBC performed before taking the unusual step of ignoring their Charter duties in this area. Now that this 'check' has been exposed as a straightforward lie, the original request for justification of the BBC's actions must surely be re-submitted to the Trust?
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