You know what? Twice I've posted Ben Drew, AKA Plan Bs video and it has elicited not a single response. Ben is 28, He's the one we have to make sense of it all to! Ill Manors says a lot that you don't seem to want to know!

At the General Election the ballot paper would be issued in duplicate. Both pages are identical and have the same numerical code printed on them (eg: WH49525004).

The voter would mark the first paper and tear off and keep the second (clean) one.

At any time during the parliamentary term, the voter can mark the second paper and place it in a ballot box permanently positioned in the public area of the town hall reception (think of a red letter box).

Each Friday afternoon, a member of staff empties the ballot box and updates a database on which all numerical codes were recorded against the vote for each code (after the General Election).

Running totals are published 'live' on the Town Hall's website.

At all times the voter remains anonymous.

Truly I listened, Dave. It's just in not any form of speech that I can translate (into Yorkshire, Queen's, Old or Middle English!!). But I like to know about these things, and I say we all need to see what's going on---including what the boys and girls are listening to. So here's a link to the lyrics of "Ill Manors" (good title). Writer(s) : Ben Drew, Pierre Krajewski, David Conen, Vincent Graf von Schlippenbach, Dmitri Shostakovich. [Ummm., errr... ????] So right it's political, too.

As a sample for euRef--- The Chorus:
Oi! I said Oi!/What you looking at you little rich boy!/We're poor round here, run home and lock your door/don't come round here no more, you could get robbed for/Real (yeah) because my manors ill -- My manors ill -- For real --- Yeah you know my manors ill, my manors ill! [. . . ]

Let's all go on an urban safari/ we might see some illegal migrants/ Oi look there's a chav,/ that means council housed and violent/ He's got a hoodie on give him a hug,/ on second thoughts don't you don't wanna get mugged [. . . ]

be the joker, play the fool/ What's politics, ain't it all/ smoke and mirrors, April fools/ All year round, all in all [. . .]

Who closed down the community centre?/I kill time there used to be a member,/ what will I do now until September?/ Schools out, rules out, ..../ London's burning, I predict a riot [. . . ]

Lets go looting/no not Luton,/ the high street's closer cover your face/ And if we see any rich kids on the way /we'll make 'em wish they stayed inside/ here's a charge for congestion, everybody's gotta pay/ do what Boris does... rob them blind
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Not quite the Old Swan, then. And those well-padded Ministers.... well they're all in their armour-plated cars, innit? What about the other flabby MPs? I guess they all have an inkling of what's in the offing, or we wouldn't have what's left of the army over by the games centre.

Oh...and PS: I've seen similar things in the good ol' US of A.

Edited by user 23 July 2012 05:14:58(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Dave Evans wrote:



While Ben Drew might be articulate and savvy, surely for the most part he's speaking for the Underclass? .. all of whom have chosen to place themselves outside of society. It's impossible to 'engage' them is any sort of reasonable dialogue about the future. They're not interested.

Courtesy of the Re-election Of Ministers Act (1919), any MP made a minister within nine months of a general election no longer had to seek re-election in a by-election. A 1926 amendment did away with the time limit entirely: regardless of when a general election had taken place, no MP who'd been promoted to ministerial level had any need to check with his electorate if it was OK for him to switch his allegiance from representing them in parliament to representing the government (and abiding by collective responsibility, regardless – as still true today – of the wishes of his constituency).

Let's repeal that Act – and extend the old provision of re-election to include any government job, from a lowly PPS to secretary of state.

Edited by user 24 July 2012 14:08:48(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

You're right. That would be ideal. And if an MP were made a minister, there would be a by-election anyway – without his or her involvement. Yup, suits me.